Where should i go??????

Hello everybody.
There's just one reason i am posting this message and that is I wanna learn how to develop ASP webpages but i have a problem.
I do not know anything about JScript, VBScript or HTML, the only thing i know how to play its the famous frontpage.
I was just wondering if there's someone out there that could give some more information on how to start, courses for newbies, begginers, books, anything at all would be very apreciated.
Thanks for your time guys, and I hope to count on you.
Best Regards
Carlos Arruda

If you want the honest truth then the first thing you need to learn is :

HTML

Why? because ASP enables you to create HTML
So if you don't know, in advance, how to code HTML then your stuck.

The second thing I **strongly** suggest you is to STAY AWAY from GUI tools such as FrontPage, HomeSite, DreamWeaver, HotDog and all that crap.

Don't get me wrong, they are not crap tools it just that they are GUI tools that WILL generate the CODE FOR YOU.

But you want to LEARN right?

Now I recommend using NOTEPAD to create your HTML pages.

Start by building a small HTML web site that has links to other HTML page.
Start adding images, a mail link and what not

...BUT STAY AWAY FROM ASP FOR NOW...

Once you've mastered/get the idea of how HTML work, then buy yourself a BOOK on javascript.

The javascript book might be a little hard since, what YOU REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND FIRST is object-oriented programming(OOP)

Javascript is an OOP language.

So even *BEFORE* the javascript book, it would be nice for you to by a book on "Programming concepts" such as an OOP book

So we have:
HTML
OOP book or any Programming concepts
JAVASCRIPT

Now after working with this for...humm...let's say a year

Then by yourself a BOOK on ASP

But why a year???
Well once you've finished creating your little HTML web site, you might want to test it in NETSCAPE, OPERA other browsers.

You will have to make some code changes in order to make your HTML web site compatible.

That is a good thing, trust me, it'll teach you to be careful on your choice of HTML tags.

That's why I'm saying a year building miscellaneous HTML projects

Then, start ASP

But wait, don't think that this will be easy, and I'm not trying to scare you but have you seen the SIZE of computer programming books ???

some go up to 600 pages and more!

Then, you'll buy an ASP book
Then a database book and an SQL book(just there you have over 600 pages to read)

Then you're ready, almost :-)

Hope this helps!
Sincerely

Vlince

UK for those programming languages?
Can you name some good books?
I am use to those big books like windows 200 server Pro, etc.... i like to read.
Thanks very much
Cheers
Carlos

Java may be an OOP language, but javascript is a scripting language and is not really any more OOP oriented than VBScript.

you guys recomend for the kick out?
HTML
OOP book or any Programming concepts
JAVASCRIPT
Many thanks
Carlos Arruda

you have to start with HTML, there really is no other choice.

Starting off with basic vbscript and asp isn't bad. It was a while before I finally learned javascript officially, its similar to java/C++ so i could always do it, but it wasn't necesarry to know when doing really basic pages. If you need to start doing form validation right away, yea, you'll need javascript, but for the most part like quering databases, generating html elements on the fly and FSO stuff vbscript is all you need. And pretty damn important when you're posting elements and making decisions at runtime.

OOP programming generally isn't necessary to know with web applications. Sure it's document.form.element blah blah blah, but you can just use it and get it without fully having to study what OOP is. At least I think... I started knowing what OOP was when i started web programming but it looks simple enough with how it's used in javascript that one can just 'get it'. You certainly don't need to wait a year after learning html. When you learn by doing things go so fast. I learned PHP which is a server side language at the same time as html and it really wasn't difficult. So just start doing html, and after a couple of days, break out simple vbscript in asp.

my favorite books are "Black Book" series, which is not applicable in this situation I think, I don't think they've made an asp or javascript book yet....
"wrox" books are good, it's programmer to programmer and is so basic and explains everything you won't get lost, CHECK THEM OUT!
later on when you need reference books, o'reilly is the best, and next to that will be vlince's book if it ever comes out...