including pages without SSI

I would like to include pages in my site
without using frames or Iframes

but my host doesnt allow my access to SSI

is it possible to do this another way
and how do i do this

Yes, it's possible.

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but my host doesnt allow my access to SSI
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Including pages or script in HTML page, you need to use Server side includes.tell us in details ,what you are trying to do.

i have my main page page
with links on left
when i click on a link i want it to open in the middle table
without completly loading a new page
right now i'm doing that with iframes
which is realy ugly cause it has to use scroll bars
it doesnt resize the middle table
like if i was using ssi

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when i click on a link i want it to open in the middle table
without completly loading a new page
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No ,you need to use frames if you don't want to refresh full page again and again while clicking on left links. Or you may try layers or something for doing it.


you cannot use ssi for doing that action.

But you may try with a server side script (eg: your.php). so that you can write logic in the script saying if someone clicks on a particular link then replace central portion with a certian piece of code.but still full page will refresh.

well is there any way to get the iframe to resize the middle table if i include a file that is realy long
so i dont have 2 scroll bars
www.decodethis.com
you will see what i mean in the personnel section

and how would i go about doing it with php???
will it have to dish out the bandwidth for my graphics with each page refresh???

nice site. it's perdy

i wouldn't bother with iframes if you can use php. add a query string to your links:

<a href="<?=$PHP_SELF?>?person=SRT.God">SRT.God</a>

this will send the link to the current page with the name as a variable $person. you could then use that variable to include the information about the player where you have your iframe now:

include( "people/$person");

that should take care of it.

browsers usually cache images, so they're only downloaded the first time a person visists the page. it's faster, and doesn't suck your bandwidth.

if your provider doesn't support php, you're probably gonna have to reformat the pages you display in the iframes. make them skinnier (smaller text, different layout).

ok well
www.decodethis.com/new.php
is my new layout
can you tell me how to incorporate that into my site

ok i dont care if the page refreshes i just dont want to have a whole bunch of pages more then i have to
i just want to have my index.php
with a few tables
then include all of my links from links.php
when i click on one of my links i want it to open in the "middle" table
i want it to look for and open the page
so i dont have to have index2.php and index3.php
with all the same info (tables, backgrounds, graphics)

>>include( "people/$person");
bad bad bad idea to include in that way without checking var

well i have no background with PhP yet
and i dont know what you mean by that
why is it "person"
i dont understand
why isnt it "link"
or something else like that

the idea is to use a meaningful variable name. you have your index page, then in a subdirectory somewhere you have a bunch of files, one for each person on the list. then your links will pass that variable as a unique identifier that you can use to include the correct file.

and ya, be sure to provide a default to display if the variable hasn't been set. php is pretty easy, especially if you have experience with another C-syntax language (java, javascript, C++).

do something like:

<?
if ($page_to_display) {
include( "path/to/$page_to_display");
} else {
?>
<p>some html to display</p>
<?
}
?>

ok
but this
"<a href="<?=$PHP_SELF?>?person=SRT.God">SRT.God</a> "
does the <$php_self?>
mean to open it up in a new window???
when i want it to open in a table???
and ok so i use ?person
when i want to open one of my members profiles???

can i have 2 inlcudes in my middle frame??
"include( "people/$person"); " this code goes in my middle frame right?
can i have another inlcude that says ("links/$link"); to use with my other link box?

$PHP_SELF is an internal php variable which basically means "current page". so it's just reloading the current page with a different query string. you put the <?include();?> in your html wherever you want the output to show up. it's the same thing as ssi. instead of writing the html in your php script and having a bunch of php scripts, you have one script that loads one section of its contents from a different file based on what variable you give it.

as to different includes, knock yourself out. since you've got the same navigation features on all your pages, you could your nav in one file and just include that. you can put your header and footer each in seperate files and include them on every page. it really makes life easier not to have to change every single page when you made a typo in your copywrite