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August 15th, 2005, 01:46 PM
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Content Theft
Hi All!
I run the Linux Tutorial (www.linux-tutorial.info). It is based on one of my books with a larger number of additions. I recently found a web site that simple inserts the entire contents of selective pages into a frame on their web site. Although my logo is still present, the URL displayed in the browser is theirs. In my mind that is nothing less than content theft. Is there any more I can do that simply tell them to stop? Regards, jimmo
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August 15th, 2005, 03:23 PM
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Sure.
You can have a lawyer tell them to stop. You can make it so people have to sign up on your site to be able to view the content. You can make your pages detect if they're framed, and if so, bust out.
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August 15th, 2005, 03:33 PM
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I think you should create a "Terms of Use" that states those using the site (and that by placing it in a frame it's considered using it) cannot place the content in a frame nor can they parse the data out for use on their own website. I believe Google has something similar to this if you need an example. Then send them a very professional letter with quotes from the Terms of Use and indicate they are in violation.
However, it is a web page, and it is being displayed w/o modification, so I'm not sure how much you could do. Maybe break from frames with JavaScript?
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August 15th, 2005, 05:32 PM
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Exactly. That is step #1, done in the form of a Cease and Desist letter.
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August 15th, 2005, 07:55 PM
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Are they eating your bandwidth?
If so, a small bit of PHP, or SSI to check $ENV{'HTTP_REFERER'} if it's coming from your site OK, if not generate a bit of text that says "Hi I'm a bandwidth thief, and I've been sussed  "
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#6
August 15th, 2005, 09:59 PM
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A little aggravation but move the location occasionally.
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August 15th, 2005, 10:41 PM
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Why aggravation? Just make it always point dynamically by sessioning. Except for people using a proxy server, which you gotta decide what you're gonna do about them. Cookies, maybe. I like chocolate chip myself.
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August 16th, 2005, 12:36 AM
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If you don't wantfull blown user authentication, just start a session when people come through your front door. If a page is loaded without the session, send them to the front door. This should effectively make framing your pages a worthless endevour.
You can also use javascript to break out of frames: Code:
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
<!--
if (top.location != location) {
top.location.href = document.location.href ;
}
-->
</script>
And this: Code:
<meta http-equiv="Window-target" content="_top"> used to work, but may not anymore.
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August 16th, 2005, 02:19 AM
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At this point the biggest thing for me is actually deciding if I want to do anything. It seems that a javascript to catch the fact that the page is in a frame is the best thing.
I use PHPNuke, so they are pulling in the entire page, including all of the ads and so forth, so I am getting credit for those hits. So I am not sure that I would classify it as "eating my bandwidth". The purpose of the site is to provide the information and for the most part you can tell that the information is mine. However, there is the psychological aspect of which URL is being displayed. I recently got email from someone pointing out an error on the page and they sent me a URL to the other site. So, the initial impression is that is the information is from their site. However, since I am getting the ad hits, I am wondering if this is merely an ego thing and there is really no harm done. What do the rest of you think?
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