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    Folks,

    I'm planning on running a public web proxy that would be a publicising service. A publicising tool for the public.

    So, if you ever want to publicise what you are browsing to any of the following groups then you use my web proxy that would be open†to the public. It would not be a private web proxy.

    GROUPs:

    * Family

    * Friends

    * Work Colleagues

    * Public (public domain)

    * Commercial Companies

    I'm not spamming this forum with my service as I don't need to spam to attract users. I'm just telling you a little bit of my idea so you open up and give me the answers I am looking for. Else, you won't bother to scratch your head to think of my sought answers thinking the venture is doomed to fail. And, you would think like that, if you think no one would use my service to publicise their internet surfing.
    Anyway, I want to know from you, since I want to run a public proxy that would not be a service that allows you to surf the internet anonymously but it would be a service that is opposite to this (would be a publicising service) then would I attract the bad crowd (bad users) like criminals such as fraudsters, spammers, hackers, virus spreaders (virus uploaders), paedophiles, porn viewers, etc. if I undertake the following measures ?
    (I already got Catacaustics views and now I need to hear from you about your opinions on how to deter crooked users).

    The following are the steps I am taking to ward-off trouble makers. Do you mind checking if they are safe & sound or not ?

    If I will attract unwanted users or guests, then how to prevent all this from happening ?

    Criminals (fraudsters, spammers, hackers, virus spreaders (virus uploaders), etc.) usually hunt for proxies that would hide their ID. Since my service would publicise their ID along with what they're browsing then I guess these unwanted guests would run a mile away from my service. Correct ? If not, then give your opinion if you think the following measures are good enough to get them to keep the hell away from my public service or not.

    Btw, you maybe wondering why any user would want to publicise their internet activities. Well, let's just say 4 groups of people have good reasons to do it.



    Publicising Groups of People

    1. Attention Seekers - These are people who want others to trail them online just like fans trail their celebrities offline on the streets. It makes them feel "good" and they'll only publicise whenever they're in the mood to feel like a celebrity.

    2. Group Shoppers - Imagine your sister†is getting married and you all siblings need to go high street shopping to find the perfect bride dress for her and each of you need to see what the other is browsing so you all can give your opinions whether that one should get more looked-into or get passed-by without wasting any more time. But unfortunately, you're all living in different parts of the country and/or world.

    Now, you can go group shopping online through the publicising web proxy. This is where each of you can see which dress and which webpage each of you are viewing. (In this "Family Group" session, the publicising web proxy only publicises your browsed pages to your group only. In this case the group is: Family).

    3. Bargain Hunters - Imagine you are searching for a Samsung Galaxy. If you google you'd get 100 pages with 1000 links. The top 10 links might not have what you're searching for or the prices might not be right for you. Now, you don't have time to go visiting a 1000 link. Best you not go to the shops. Best they come to you. That way, you save time.†

    Now, you can go bargain hunting online through the publicising web proxy. This is where you'd type your chosen keywords and your min & max budget and your locality and the publicising web proxy would alert all those websites advertising under your chosen keywords and they'd be given an opportunity to browwse your browsing history and trail you online LIVE from their competition website to website to understand your shopping needds and message you offers. Each competitor would be able to see what the other is offering you in order to start a reverse bidding type of offers for you to get the best price. You'd go to the one who offers you the lowest price.

    (In this "Bargain Hunting†Group" session, the publicising web proxy only publicises your browsed pages to those marketers who got what you want to buy.†In this case the group is: Marketers).



    So you see. There are groups of people who have good reasons to publicise their browsings to certain groups of people. I just gave you 3 examples. But, there are more.

    Now, let's talk-about what measures to take to draw-off the bad crowd from signing-up to the service. To get my venture up and running, I thought I need to track people what they are viewing and then publicise their browsings to their chosen group. Now, in the past, you tracked what your users are browsing by showing them their chosen pages on the bottom frame and you track them via the top frame on your website like searchengines do. But, nowadays ith php 5, frames & iframes are rendered useless. And so, I find no other way to track a user unless via a web proxy or cache proxy.

    Yes, I know. I can build my own web browser and track my ussers†browsings and I have already done that. But people are ary to download & install unknown or less known brands. But, people are not that fussy when it comes to signing upto a service online such as a social network or web proxy.†My web proxy would give users accounts and track their browsings through their account usernames.

    Yes, I've been suggested to build browser plugins and track via them. But, I'd rather not build plugins for 3rd party popular browsers.

    And so, if you have any better idea on how to track my peoples internet surfings (other than run a searchengine and track users via that) then let me know.

    Thank You!
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    Originally Posted by UniqueIdeaMan
    Criminals (fraudsters, spammers, hackers, virus spreaders (virus uploaders), etc.) usually hunt for proxies that would hide their ID. Since my service would publicise their ID along with what they're browsing then I guess these unwanted guests would run a mile away from my service. Correct ? If not, then give your opinion if you think the following measures are good enough to get them to keep the hell away from my public service or not.
    You won't. Your "service" will have to deal with 1,000's or 1,000,000's of bots all day every day. I've seen automated systems that can be trained to create new accounts on a platform like you've proposed in 5-10 minutes, and break any ccaptcha's or other security "measures" that you have set up. That's then distrubited to 1,000's of bot nets around that internet that will send your system into meltdown. Remember that everything from a web server to a home router and even a "smart" lightbulb can be hijacked to do someone's dirty work these days. All these systems would need to do is create accounts, SPAM their own links in them, and BAM... you've become their free advertising source - if you're lucky. If you're not lucky you'll get the same botnets going for all sorts of immoral and illegal stuff, and because your system will be the one sharing out the links to all of those nasty things, you'll be ultimately responsible.

    Unless you can emply 1,000's of people to manually approve all of these accounts and links, you'll always be SPAM'ed, no matter what. Even Facebook and Google can't stop that happening with their services, and they can put 10-20,000 real people behind it. What resources do you have?

    Originally Posted by UniqueIdeaMan
    Now, let's talk-about what measures to take to draw-off the bad crowd from signing-up to the service. To get my venture up and running, I thought I need to track people what they are viewing and then publicise their browsings to their chosen group. Now, in the past, you tracked what your users are browsing by showing them their chosen pages on the bottom frame and you track them via the top frame on your website like searchengines do. But, nowadays ith php 5, frames & iframes are rendered useless.
    How does that hav eanything to do with combating a "bad crowd"?

    Originally Posted by UniqueIdeaMan
    And so, I find no other way to track a user unless via a web proxy or cache proxy.
    Strange. Google, Facebook, Amazon, and a whole heap of other online marketing companies have all found ways to do that... but you can't? You should think about that for a while.

    Originally Posted by UniqueIdeaMan
    3. Bargain Hunters - Imagine you are searching for a Samsung Galaxy. If you google you'd get 100 pages with 1000 links. The top 10 links might not have what you're searching for or the prices might not be right for you. Now, you don't have time to go visiting a 1000 link. Best you not go to the shops. Best they come to you. That way, you save time.†

    Now, you can go bargain hunting online through the publicising web proxy. This is where you'd type your chosen keywords and your min & max budget and your locality and the publicising web proxy would alert all those websites advertising under your chosen keywords and they'd be given an opportunity to browwse your browsing history and trail you online LIVE from their competition website to website to understand your shopping needds and message you offers. Each competitor would be able to see what the other is offering you in order to start a reverse bidding type of offers for you to get the best price. You'd go to the one who offers you the lowest price.
    So, the companies all have to monitor all of your users browsing all of the time, just in case they decide to look for something that they sell? That sounds like a whole oot of work. There's also other shopping systems out there that do this, but just a whole lot better. Why would you do it this way when you can just tell people to input a product that they are looking for, send that link out to the companies and wait for responses.

    Again, while your ideas do have some good basics and done the right way would work. BUT, the way that you're going about it is fundamentally wrong, and when you team that with your lack of experience in everything from the programming to the administration to even knowing what you're up against, you fighting aloosing battle.
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    Dont worry. I know exactly what I am doing.

    Ok. So you think that some users would become abusers by uploading viruses, downloading illegal stuffs, spreading malware all via my web proxy and I won't be able to control them but those popular web proxies (like anonymouse.org etc) can prevent all this abuse.
    Right ?

    Well. That is good news for me then if my competitions are able to prevent the abuse. I'll just forward all page requests to them one after the other and start a chain.
    So, if you were running a web proxy, I'll just forward the requested urls to your server and it will do all the filtering to prevent abuse and send me back only those pages that are safe. Those thst are unsafe, it would block them and send me error alert which I will forward to my users.
    This way, my web proxy works on your shoulders. It is like you are the server and I am the dumb terminal.
    You never thought I would come to this. Did you ?
    Yes. I know. I'd no longer be running a true web proxy but a chaining proxy service. A meta web proxy just like meta engines. Meta engines dont have their own index. They forward keyword searches to many searchengines and forward the third party search results to their users. My service would be similar. Lol!
    And, as the middleman, my web proxy would log all user page requests and provide the unique service I promise my users in return for allowing me to log their browsings.

    So, what do you think of my new tactic now ?
    Web proxies usually do not forbid chaining or linking like this.
    Yes, page serving to my users would be slower than usual and that is the only drawback to my new tactic.
    Anyway, try thinking up loopholes in my new tactic so they are brought to my attention before I start and is taken care of.
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    Originally Posted by UniqueIdeaMan
    Dont worry. I know exactly what I am doing.

    Ok. So you think that some users would become abusers by uploading viruses, downloading illegal stuffs, spreading malware all via my web proxy and I won't be able to control them but those popular web proxies (like anonymouse.org etc) can prevent all this abuse.
    Right ?

    Well. That is good news for me then if my competitions are able to prevent the abuse. I'll just forward all page requests to them one after the other and start a chain.
    So, if you were running a web proxy, I'll just forward the rwquested urls to your server and it will do all the filtering to prevent abuse and send me back only those pages that are safe. Those thst sre unsafe, it would block them and send me error alert which I will forward to my users.
    This way, my web proxy works on your shoulders. It is like you are the server and I am the dumb terminal.
    You never thought I would come to this. Did you ?
    Yes. I know. I'd no longer be running a true web proxy but a chaining proxy service. A meta web proxy just like meta engines. Meta engines dont have their own index. They forward keyword searches to many searchengines and forward the third party search results to their users. My service would be similar. Lol!
    And, as the middleman, my web proxy would log all user page requests and provide the unique service I promise my users in return for allowing me to log their browsings.

    So, what do you think of my new tactic now ?
    Web proxies usually do not forbid chaining or linking like this.
    Yes, page serving yo my users would be slower than usual and that is the only drawback to my new tactic.
    Anyway, try thinking up loopholes in my new tactic so thst it is btought to my attention before I start and is taken cate of.
    I actually canít believe that you think that will work. Do you seriously think that the proxyís that youíre piggy backing on will be ok with you abusing their services like that? Youíll be shut down faster then ever.

    But again, it doesnít matter what you do technically your whole idea is fundamentally flawed. People arenít going to use your system itís so slow, involved and takes way too much time to do anything. As an example... why would I share my browsing history with my family when I can send them links to the pages that I want them to see? Why would they want to wade through everything that Iím recording just for a couple of pages, and how do they know which pages are the important ones?

    If I want someone to see a link for a listing I eBay Iíll send them that link, I wonít send them to some recorded list where I start off at the eBay homepage, then click through a few categories and then the 10 or 20 listings that look similar before I find the one single link that I actually want them to see.
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    Happy New Year!

    @cataclystic,

    Don't bother quoting my posts. Especially next one.

    Same advice given to others.

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    Originally Posted by Catacaustic
    I actually canít believe that you think that will work. Do you seriously think that the proxyís that youíre piggy backing on will be ok with you abusing their services like that? Youíll be shut down faster then ever.

    But again, it doesnít matter what you do technically your whole idea is fundamentally flawed. People arenít going to use your system itís so slow, involved and takes way too much time to do anything. As an example... why would I share my browsing history with my family when I can send them links to the pages that I want them to see? Why would they want to wade through everything that Iím recording just for a couple of pages, and how do they know which pages are the important ones?

    If I want someone to see a link for a listing I eBay Iíll send them that link, I wonít send them to some recorded list where I start off at the eBay homepage, then click through a few categories and then the 10 or 20 listings that look similar before I find the one single link that I actually want them to see.
    I hope you are having a mErRy nEw yEaR! Cat! :
    You did have a hApPy cHrIsTmAs, right ? :drunk:

    I have not completely given you the real reasons why you would want to flash your browsing history. So, I'll be brief. Just imagine that, when anyone clicks any links in your browsing history then you'd be earning ppc income.
    The websites you're visiting and their competitions would be checking out your browsing history. It will tell them your search history and reveal to them why you visited their site/their competition site. Did you land there by chance (popup, link in a spam email) or were you searching for something. The links you have visited will show them a pattern of your search and that will help them understand whether you're a potential customer lead or some random surfer.
    To understand your mind, they'll click links after links or atleast 10 links you've visited. That should be enough to satisfy their curiosities.
    And ofcourse, those 10 link clicks will earn you money or some of them will. When unlimited people from the public domain click likewise, your income goes skyhigh.
    That was your NEW YEAR gift. A revelation of my trade secret. I can't risk revealing any more like this in public. If you want to learn more them PM me.
    Frankly, my script was completed 2 mnths ago. I just haven't launched my venture because you put me off with all your "hackers gonna do this and do that and you'll get sued". But, I've got the green light from another forum that both users & abusers would run a mile away from my venture when they findout I'm going to publicise their browsing history. I was happy with that reply. I got my answer that the measures I have put in place is now good enough to ward-off abusers. As for users, the guy thinks I won't find users (jus like you think) because I did not reveal to him (like I have done here) that users would earn money when others trail their link clicks. If he had known that users will earn money from others' trailing clicks then he never would have commented that I won't find users. I'm letting him think I am some stupid goofy kid round the corner who's had too much code to look into and his head has gon all bonkers. (You do understand "bonkers" don't you ? The country where you're from use that very often. And, I believe where his from is the same country). I'm letting him (the Mod in that forum and maybe he's a mod here too as he's a mod in many forums) think that, I'm a young upstart. A dreamer. But, I'm not gonna let you think likewise because I think if you even get a small wind of my geniousness then you might help me find my answer to find another less riky technology to log my users' website browsings other than logging through the risky web proxy.
    So now you know, nearly the whole truth and nothing but the truth and so let's quit the fact that I won't find users like you fear. I will.
    Now, since you say that, there are other ways to log users link clicks from website to website and webpage to webpage in the same site other than using a web proxy then I'd like to know from you HOW ? You say it can be done via frames. How ? I know it cannot be done without cURL usage. But, using cURL is actually using a web proxy.
    The sooner you show me how a frame or iframe can log my users' webpage browsings from third party site to other third party sites (a.com to b.com) and page to page (on the same third party site b.com/products to b.com/contactus) then the sooner I launch my venture and the sooner you come and check it out how much you make per day, week, mnth.

    Look, you say if searchengines can track their users without running a proxy and I fail to do it then I don't know what I'm talking about. But searchengines can only track to where they are leading you to. The page in particular. For example, cataclystic.com/products.html. But, when the visitor clicks to another page on your site then the searchengine can't track nor log the user to what he is doing on your website. Which other pages he is visiting. To keep on tracking all their moves on your website the searchengine would have to not directly forward the visitor to your products page (in our example here) but to a proxified page of your products page. That way, if any other links in that product page of your's contain proxified links then those links can contain the searchengine's tracker links.
    But, searchengines don't yield you proxied results. And if they did, then there you go they're using a web proxy. Just like me.
    And so my friend, without the web proxy or cURL technology or function of php, there is no way I can track my users every moves on third party sites. Unless ofcourse, I build a web browser (which I already have 1.5yrs back) or a browser plugin (fire fox, netscape, ie, etc.). But, like I said before, people tend to get spooked downloading and installing .exe onto their computers from unknown brands. But they don't hesitate to register to social networks or membership sites or web proxies (.php) and so I took this approach 11 mnths back. Finished the project 2 mnths back but you freaked me out and I'm having trouble finding hosts who would allow me to run a web proxy and those who did say I can run it they say they'll hold me responsible if my users abuse their servers (upload virus etc.). Hence, for 2 months been trying to come-up with plans to scare-off or ward-off or unmotivate abusers from registering.
    Gmail and the like get you to verify your fone number so they can trace you if you abuse their servers. I can't be auto txting like that and spending millions on fone verifying texts. And so took the approach to verify the account holder's domain instead. And yes, a creep can use false id to rgister a domain but why would the majority of the human race even bother to go to that length just to use my service which does not keep their internet surfing anonymous but publicizes them instead ? Unless ofcourse that guy has some grudge against me. You won't have any grudge against me for not heeding your putt-offs, now are you ? If I give you a link to checkout my unique viral traffic and viral money making idea site, you're not gonna abuse my servers just to teach me a lesson so you can later on say: "I told you so!" Now, are you ? Lol!
    Anyway, I'll be waiting for you to show me some code samples how a frame or iframe or whatever you think it is (an online technology) that can log my users' third party webpage browsings in order to publicise it in the public domain.

    If you really must know. My venture is not to make me millions only. If it was all about making me money I would have hired someone like you to build it back in early 2015. No. It's all about poverty erasure for the poor or masses and learning how to do it via web programming. Get the majority above the poverty level with a click of a few buttons (so to speak). The masses (majority of this world's users) would make a living out of it. I'll speak your language here. I'm building a POWER BUTTON. A powerful push button technology to DO the masses GOOD.
    Especially helpful it would be too the unemployed, bankrupt, those who hate their 9-5 jobs but are stuck unable to get out of it, house wives, teens, etc.
    I just don't like coming up with ideas and see others give life to it. And so, jumped into php learning. Ever since 1998 I keep coming up with ideas but never able to build them due to not knowing programming or due to not revealing my ideas to hired programmers incase they back stab me and take all the credit for themselves and become famous over my head. Fed-up with all these idea overloads and so it is about time I get them out of my conscious by giving birth to them through my own programming. Look, I've been waiting for someone to think along the same lines as me and thinkup this idea of mine and build their own social network. But no one has so far. Been waiting since twitter came out back in 2004. It seems the whole world has become brain dead. They think up complicated stuffs and make use of them to make the public money but they can't see a simple idea right under their nose. A very obvious idea, I mean. And so, I have now come to the conclusion that it is GOD who has made them all blind. Because, it's in my destiny to be the ONE to get this idea up and running. And no one else. And that is why, even now, you and a whole lot of other programmers have failed to understand my venture even after I have been so clear to you guys. It's not your destiny to be the original guy who gets this baby rolling. It's me. PERIOD.
    Anyway, feels better when you've built your own house brick for brick rather than see others put the bricks together. This is my baby or frankenstein (if it turns out to be an ugly creation) and I built it all by myself letter for letter, char for char. Ok, I had a little help in learning a few things in php from forums like this but I did write the codes word for word after modifying others' suggestions.
    Once my venture is up and running, I know copycats would follow. Good. I want to see millions creating clones of my work. But, I want to be the firs to create the original. Hence the secrecy for the time being. YOU are WELCOME to copy MY IDEA. But, only later on. Only after I have made my mark on the world. Not before.

    Anyway, I got another thread to open on another subject. Look-out for that thread.

    Oh btw: HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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    I thought as much.
    Requinix mods this forum too. Thanks Requinix for your reply on the other forum. Your reply has encouraged me to go ahead with my venture and not worry too much about abusers.

    @cataclystic,
    I was referring to Requinix in my previous post.
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    But saying all this, I would still love to have another insurance one or two up my sleeve to deter abusers.
    Yes, I know. Gmail and the like get you to verify your mobile number so you are not using false id. But, I prefer another method where I won't have to spend money texting new registrants to verify their fone number to verify their id.
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    Catacaustic,

    I waited 2 months and did not find any solution to prevent abusers from signing upto my publicizing web proxy apart from get them to verify their domain name so I know who they are via their domain names. Was hoping this will urge them to behave or get in trouble as I know them via their domains.
    Anyway, lately been thinking ...
    I'll get the new registrants to sit in front of a camera and read out a few text (My name is so and so, my domain I verified is so, my email I registered that is from my verified domain is so and my name is so) and then upload the video via their account. I'll check the vidoes personally myself and see their faces. Who they are. And then manually open the accounts for them. That way, abusers won't bother signing up. I mean, who'd want to show their faces and then start abusing my servers knowing I'd forward their videos to the law.
    Came-up with this idea about a week ago but the thought of me having to manually open millions of accounts if not billions (I think atleast 1bn would sign up) would drive me nuts.
    But guess what ? I never give-up. While roaming the fields and streets yesterday and having this problem soaring or roaming at the back of my head (searching for a solution subconsciously) I came-up with a solution. I'll get others to manually verify the vids and open accounts for others. And all, working for me for FREE. Yes, free! Lol!
    I'll use the MLM tactic. When you recruit others, you will have to manually verify the members you recruit. And based on the TOS (terms of service) if you verify any false details then you're liable for the damages.
    So, I'll just personally recruit 10 members and verify their accounts. Then when they recruit 10 each then they can verify who they recruited. And so on till infinity downline/generation.
    And, when I mean you a member, manually verify others accs whom you recruit, I mean you just check the vids they submitted and click "open account" link to get their accs from pending to up and running. That is not that hard for each member to do to get their recruited people's accs opened.
    Anyway, was busy for about 2hrs coding this feature. Here's a rough glimpse of the partial code:

    PHP Code:
    <?php 
        
    //Welcome User by name. Display Log-out Link.
        
    echo 'Welcome '; echo $_SESSION["first_name"]; echo $_SESSION["middle_name"]; echo $_SESSION["surname"]; ?>
        <br>
        <?php 
        
    //Prompt user to video confirm their account by reading their account details in-front of a video camera.
        
    echo 'To verify your account, heed the following instructions.'?><br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <?php echo '1. Stand in front of your video camera and read-out the following text you see in bold text.'?><br>
        <?php echo '2. Make sure the video is no longer than 2 minutes.'?><br>
        <?php echo '3. Attach the video on the form below to submit it to us.'?><br>
        <?php echo "4. Click the \"<b>Submit</b>\" button and submit the form."?><br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <?php //Type Casted the INT to STRING on the 1st parameter of sha1 as it needs to be a STRING.
        
    $account_video_verification_code sha1( (string) mt_rand(099999999));
        echo 
    "<b>My $social_network_name Account Video Verification Code is: "; echo "$account_video_verification_code";?> <br>    
        
        <?php //Grab User details from Session Variables and echo them.
        
    echo "<b>My $social_network_name Id is: "; echo $_SESSION["id"];?> <br> 
        <?php echo "<b>My $social_network_name Username is: "; echo $_SESSION["username"];?> <br> 
        <?php echo "<b>My $social_network_name Domain is: "; echo $_SESSION["domain"];?> <br> 
        <?php echo "<b>My $social_network_name Email is: "; echo $_SESSION["email"];?> <br> 
        <?php echo "<b>My $social_network_name First Name is: "; echo $_SESSION["first_name"];?> <br> 
        <?php echo "<b>My $social_network_name Middle Name is: "; echo $_SESSION["middle_name"];?> <br> 
        <?php echo "<b>My $social_network_name Surname is: "; echo $_SESSION["surname"];?> <br> 
        <?php echo "<b>My $social_network_name Gender is: "; echo $_SESSION["gender"];?> <br> 
        <?php echo "<b>My $social_network_name Age Range is: "; echo $_SESSION["age_range"];?> <br> 
        <?php echo "<b>My $social_network_name Religion is: "; echo $_SESSION["religion"];?> <br> 
        <?php echo "<b>My $social_network_name Working Status is: "; echo $_SESSION["working_status"];?> <br> 
        <?php echo "<b>My $social_network_name Profession is: "; echo $_SESSION["profession"];?> <br>
    Not perfect but I did say it's rough.

    Oh, and you (generally speaking and not specifically meaning "you") won't be recruiting fake members because you need to recruit real members in order to earn from their surfings.
    As for bot surfings, putting in foiling methods. Remember, I'm a .exe bot builder and so I know how to spot bots and grab them by their snouts and hurl them in the ditches where they belong.
    Yeah yeah, I know. Who's gonna give-out that much info about themselves. But, I think they will. Else they can go elsewhere and try their luck there. You'll be surprised how much info people leak publicly on facebook and the like where they earn nothing. With me they'll be earning something and so they won't mind revealing a little about themselves.

    EDIT: I just can't wait to see what you guys look like from your vids. Lol!
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    Originally Posted by UniqueIdeaMan
    I just can't wait to see what you guys look like from your vids. Lol!
    I wouldn't sign up. It's that easy. Not with all of the stuff that you've said about it.

    I personally hate MLM with a passion. It's one of the most horrible ways to "make money", partly because it's only the people at the top that actually make anything decent, and mostly because to make anything at all you need to get your family and friends involved in something that they might not want to be in.

    Also remember that the MLM sales model is against the law in a lot of countries, mine included.

    Having said that...

    I actually do want to see you get this going. The main reason for that is that I am still really curious about how people would actually make money, what privacy measures you have in place, and just how you generally handle things. As much as I (and others here) do tell you that you have got no idea on the programming, that doesn't mean that any of us want to see you fail. It's the opposite. We want to see you do things the right way so you can succeed.
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    Originally Posted by Catacaustic
    I wouldn't sign up. It's that easy. Not with all of the stuff that you've said about it.

    I personally hate MLM with a passion. It's one of the most horrible ways to "make money", partly because it's only the people at the top that actually make anything decent, and mostly because to make anything at all you need to get your family and friends involved in something that they might not want to be in.

    Also remember that the MLM sales model is against the law in a lot of countries, mine included.

    Having said that...

    I actually do want to see you get this going. The main reason for that is that I am still really curious about how people would actually make money, what privacy measures you have in place, and just how you generally handle things. As much as I (and others here) do tell you that you have got no idea on the programming, that doesn't mean that any of us want to see you fail. It's the opposite. We want to see you do things the right way so you can succeed.
    You touched my soft spot with that post of your's. In my web browser, web proxy and searchengine ventures, MLM is not really required on the web browser and the searchengine. On the Web proxy, my MLM requires no selling. In short, when others follow you online LIVE or LATER any day by clicking the links found on your browsing history then you earn money. Followee earns money. Not the followers. Followers are public. Your browsing history is in the public domain. No privacy there. If you don't like to publicize your browsing history then you don't use the .exe browser nor the web proxy. If you do not want to publicize your keywords search history then you don't use my searchengine. It is that simple.
    My 3 ventures are more suitable to those who like to go personal online. Who love publicity. Not for those who prefer privacy.
    You won't find me making youtube videos standing infront of the camera and showing the whole world what I look like, where I live, what I got in my house (car, motorbike, computer, etc.) what my furniture looks like, what my bedroom looks like, what my spouse and children look like. Not that I am ashamed of my wealth. No. It's just I don't want to be identified on the streets and people staring all the time or trying to shake hands all the time or saying "hello" a million times a day where I have to reply back a million times of the day or trying to take advantage like get involved into my private life. You know how disastrous the movie stars and the pop singers lives are. No privacy. No freedom from both the public and the media. I am shy type. Less patient and can't put-up with crap. If anyone wrongfully criticizes me due to envy, I won't put-up with it and then will turn into Incredible Hulk and beat them up and go unpopular in public overnight. Best not to attract attention. Better to keep a low profile. Right now, I'm what you would classify as "no body" or maybe even a "bum". But all that will change the very week I release my frankenstiens that gooble-up all poverty. Lol!
    Public shy. Camera shy. I am quiet as a mouse infront of you. I won't argue with you if I think you are doing something wrong. I am not a good speaker. But when I get the pen out or the computer then my character switches and I can argue with you till I either make you believe me or you drop dead and you won't know it's that little guy you just saw sitting quietly in the room or hall or wherever you saw me. A total opposite character.
    Now, a great number of people are like me. Check youtube and you will see money making or programming instruction vids with no audio but text. They are shy to reveal their voice or accent or don't want to be identified. Not much of a speaker. And then you got the opposite type who stand or sit in front of their camera and show the world how they are earning money, what ferrari or lamborghini they are driving and what $million house or bungalow they just bought or which beach they are relaxing etc. They want to be an internet celebrity or online celebrity. They know they can't be a movie star or singer celebrity. These people want the whole world to watch their videos and copy them. They want you to copy them so you can succeed like them. Ofcourse the catch is, you'd buy their instruction materials or they'll earn a %commission from your sales or other income which do not involve sales (such as when you earn money reading emails that pay you, taking online surveys that pay you, watching movie trailers that pay you, etc.). In short, they earn from your efforts a commission because they recruited you into these money making programs. These type of recruiters do not mind breaking their privacy a little because like I said the more they show you of their life-style the more you get convinced to roll into their money making programs be it their own programs or third parties which they joined. They want you to copy their methods. They want you to follow them online like facebook, twitter, etc.
    Now, when they find-out that they can flash their browsing history for the public to follow them online from link to link (website to website and webpage to webpage) and they'll earn from every link clicks (so to speak) then do you think these people would not signup to my .exe web browser, web proxy and searchengine ? I did tell you that my first project the .exe web browser idea was liked by 2 companies in 2 different EU countries and one did take it to their lab to check it out if it will defraud them virally or not. They suspected it would go viral and if it has any cheating method to defraud them then users would be earning money through it virally. Virally cheating them. If the idea was not that good they never would have feared the "viral effect". Anyway, you know the rest. They found-out it does not cheat them because like I always say I'm not a cheater even though I can build cheating bots.
    Anyway, my point to this lengthy message is that, the western countries are mostly privacy fussy but not the Africans or the Asians. And the Europeans and the Americans who literally flash their lifestyle online are not that fussy too. They have the celebrity syndrome. My 3 ventures helps them cash in on their celebrity habits. That is why, I know, a lot of people would become rich using my 3 ventures but they were not engineered to make you rich. Make a small elite rich. They were geared towards erasing poverty for the masses. And that means, 90% of the world population. Checkout which of the actors you like have twitter accounts. Notice their follower number. It is over 1 million atleast. Let's assume you're a celebrity like that with only 1m followers. The very moment you go online publicly browsing a page, do you think your 1m followers won't follow you to that link ? Within the min of them following you there (via my .exe web browser or .php web proxy or .php searchengine) you will earn $5k and your followers won't have to buy anything. On the 2nd minute when you headover to another link and when those same 1m follow you there LIVE or LATER some other time or day then again you earn another $5k. Now imagine what those celebrities could earn who got more than a million followers. I know one celebrity could earn $100k everyday using my FREE SERVICES. I know one celebrity has 6m, another has 25m followers on twitter and so on. originally, I was building the web proxy to compete with facebook. Now, I am gonna add micro blogging feature and so if twitter loses members then I won't be surprised. Nor will I be surprised if any social network copies my features.
    In short, my Australian friend, I'm going to be an international super star. But, I'm going to keep my prvacy and never go public. My works will go public but not my person.
    Anyway, I was not online for 2-3 nights & days. Now, got to finish the part I was working on that I told you guys last time I was working on.
    Oh btw, why you would recruit others to my program ? Well, I still got to work on that part to influence and motivate members to recruit more members. Get them to get the snow ball rolling.
    Just curious, you say others here are curious to see my ventures. Who else ?

    And I'd like to add, just like social networks changed the internet from 2004 onwards where the internet is now called web 2. Don't be surprised if they now call it web 3 and you see my models are being copied literally in every similar ventures.
    Frankly, I reckon, either the social networks and the searchengines copy my ideas or see themselves going bankrupt. I won't be surprised if they offer to buy my websites out or offer me free shares in their companies to work for them. I'll be ok with the former offer but not the latter. I'll tell, whoever approaches me with the 2nd offer to LITERALLY bog off (get lost!). I, no-one's slave. Wage slave, that is. And, all my ventures are geared towards freeing you from your wage slavery. The rich won't be getting richer anymore where the poor get poorer. It would be the OPPOSITE. This is WAR. This is the internet REAL revolution. I am like Mac Guyver. I don't really build things. I jus grab whatever I can find and turn them into useful tools. Watch how I use the internet to RID poverty from the world.

    Anyway, I got work to do.

    Good Day!

    EDIT: I made a mistake. I said my ventures are not for the privacy minded. I was wrong. You can still publicize your searches and earn money (when others browse your search histories or message you their bargain offers) without revealing to the world who you are.
    And, I have to put in measures where you don't browse your own links or your affiliate links to get your followers (link/click trailers) follow you to them by thinking you're on 3rd party links. Or better, I'll let you browse your own links to draw your followers to them but your followers would by notified that they are on your own sites/affiliate links. And so, if any spammer wants to indirectly spam his links like that then they can be my guests and see their followers drop out! Sweet revenge to the INDIRECT spammer! You did warn me once that this is what would happen. Indirect spammers would take advantage. I never give-up the fight to control the spammers and the abusers.
    The war is on ...And, I know how to stop these spammers from taking advantage of my FREE SERVICES.
    Last edited by UniqueIdeaMan; January 24th, 2018 at 08:00 AM.
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    Php Folks,

    Currently, I'm trying to add the video upload feature. Checked out these tutorials about 3 nights ago roughly:

    https://www.tutorialrepublic.com/php...ile-upload.php
    https://www.w3schools.com/php/php_file_upload.asp
    https://www.tutorialspoint.com/php/p..._uploading.htm
    PHP: POST method uploads - Manual
    PHP: Handling file uploads - Manual

    Actually, which link seems to be the simplest to learn from in your opinion ? What do you think ? A beginner like me should start on which one first and then move up the ladder with the other links few days later when more experienced in php ?

    Good thing I picked to go with this one as it seemed simpler:
    https://www.tutorialrepublic.com/php...ile-upload.php
    I did not understand this part:
    PHP Code:
    if(!array_key_exists($ext$allowed)) die("Error: Please select a valid file format."); 
    And resulted me googling:
    http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-key-exists.php
    And, came across these:
    http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-keys.php
    http://php.net/manual/en/function.in-array.php

    From this link:
    http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-key-exists.php
    And it's code:
    PHP Code:
    <?php
    $search_array 
    = array('first' => null'second' => 4);

    // returns false
    isset($search_array['first']);

    // returns true
    array_key_exists('first'$search_array);
    ?>
    I gather that if you want to check if an array key is empty (NULL) then not to use the isset but array_key_exists() function instead. Am I right ?
    The link mentions:
    "isset() does not return TRUE for array keys that correspond to a NULL value, while array_key_exists() does."
    Last edited by UniqueIdeaMan; January 24th, 2018 at 08:50 AM.
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    Originally Posted by UniqueIdeaMan
    Php Folks,

    Currently, I'm trying to add the video upload feature. Checked out these tutorials about 3 nights ago roughly:
    Don't use any of those.

    Those are useful for uploading small files. Things like low-resolution images, small documents, etc. Even things like reasonable PDF files won't work with those.

    The reason for that is that 99.999999% of servers won't let you upload a video-sizes file. The majority of shared hosting servers are set at around 2MB for uploads. Some can get to 8 or even 20MB, but how large is a "standard" video file? Even if it can be uploaded your script will still time out just in copying it to the local file system.

    Talking of that, it's also worth noting that if you're uploading videos, you will need a *lot* of storage space. Even if this is just for your idea of users ending in video verifications.. if you're even 1/1,000th as successful as you say you'll have a few 1,000 video files at what, 20MB? 100MB? 500MB? each??? That's a lot of storage space for a hosting account. You're better off trying to redirect the upload to a different storage platform, something like AWS.

    Do some searching for 'upload large file" and you'll see a lot of more useful examples then those.
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    Originally Posted by Catacaustic
    Don't use any of those.

    Those are useful for uploading small files. Things like low-resolution images, small documents, etc. Even things like reasonable PDF files won't work with those.

    The reason for that is that 99.999999% of servers won't let you upload a video-sizes file. The majority of shared hosting servers are set at around 2MB for uploads. Some can get to 8 or even 20MB, but how large is a "standard" video file? Even if it can be uploaded your script will still time out just in copying it to the local file system.

    Talking of that, it's also worth noting that if you're uploading videos, you will need a *lot* of storage space. Even if this is just for your idea of users ending in video verifications.. if you're even 1/1,000th as successful as you say you'll have a few 1,000 video files at what, 20MB? 100MB? 500MB? each??? That's a lot of storage space for a hosting account. You're better off trying to redirect the upload to a different storage platform, something like AWS.

    Do some searching for 'upload large file" and you'll see a lot of more useful examples then those.
    Thanks. Doing that now!
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    Originally Posted by Catacaustic
    Don't use any of those.

    Those are useful for uploading small files. Things like low-resolution images, small documents, etc. Even things like reasonable PDF files won't work with those.

    The reason for that is that 99.999999% of servers won't let you upload a video-sizes file. The majority of shared hosting servers are set at around 2MB for uploads. Some can get to 8 or even 20MB, but how large is a "standard" video file? Even if it can be uploaded your script will still time out just in copying it to the local file system.

    Talking of that, it's also worth noting that if you're uploading videos, you will need a *lot* of storage space. Even if this is just for your idea of users ending in video verifications.. if you're even 1/1,000th as successful as you say you'll have a few 1,000 video files at what, 20MB? 100MB? 500MB? each??? That's a lot of storage space for a hosting account. You're better off trying to redirect the upload to a different storage platform, something like AWS.

    Do some searching for 'upload large file" and you'll see a lot of more useful examples then those.
    Thanks. Doing that now!
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