Business Help
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me
Go Back   Dev Shed ForumsWeb Site ManagementBusiness Help

Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread Dev Shed Forums Sponsor:
Stop making mediocre tutorials.The best tutorials are video! Camtasia Studio makes it easy to create engaging, buzz-building screen videos at any size, in any popular format. Download the free trial!
  #1  
Old August 28th, 2003, 07:40 AM
John AlphaOne John AlphaOne is offline
Junior Member
Dev Shed Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Brighton, UK
Posts: 5 John AlphaOne User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: < 1 sec
Reputation Power: 0
Reclaiming .com domain

I've taken on a client who is in dispute with his former web developer - client says the web developer fouled up causing them to lose important emails, web developer says the client owes them money. The web developer set up their domain (it's a .com)and the registration details show them as the registrant, not the client.

The web developer won't release control of the domain until such time as they have been paid, but despite repeated requests will not get in touch with the client to tell them how much is owed! Has anyone been in a similar position or does anyone know of a process by which the client can re-establish control over their domain?

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old August 28th, 2003, 08:36 AM
Onslaught's Avatar
Onslaught Onslaught is offline
/(bb|[^b]{2})/
Dev Shed Demi-God (4500 - 4999 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Somewhere in the great unknown
Posts: 4,827 Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Day 22 h 57 m 29 sec
Reputation Power: 88
Send a message via ICQ to Onslaught
Sounds like the client needs to add the resources of a legal staff.

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old August 28th, 2003, 08:37 AM
drgroove's Avatar
drgroove drgroove is offline
pushing envelopes, not pencils
Dev Shed God 2nd Plane (6000 - 6499 posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 6,223 drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Day 4 h 32 m 57 sec
Reputation Power: 174
Whose credit card was used to make the domain purchase - your client's, or the previous web developer's?

If it was your client's card, you should be able to contact the registrar to settle the dispute.
__________________
Give a person code, and they'll hack for a day; Teach them how to code, and they'll hack forever.
Analyze twice; hack once.
The world's first existential ITIL question: If a change is released into production without a ticket to track it,
was it actually released?


About DrGroove: ITIL-Certified IT Process Engineer - Enterprise Application Architect -
Freelance IT Journalist - Devshed Moderator - Funk Bassist Extraordinaire


Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old August 28th, 2003, 08:38 AM
drgroove's Avatar
drgroove drgroove is offline
pushing envelopes, not pencils
Dev Shed God 2nd Plane (6000 - 6499 posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 6,223 drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Day 4 h 32 m 57 sec
Reputation Power: 174
Should this be moved to Business & Legal ?

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old August 28th, 2003, 08:41 AM
Onslaught's Avatar
Onslaught Onslaught is offline
/(bb|[^b]{2})/
Dev Shed Demi-God (4500 - 4999 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Somewhere in the great unknown
Posts: 4,827 Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Onslaught User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Day 22 h 57 m 29 sec
Reputation Power: 88
Send a message via ICQ to Onslaught
I would suggest that it is moved there.

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old August 28th, 2003, 08:59 AM
Stink Sleeve's Avatar
Stink Sleeve Stink Sleeve is offline
Contributing User
Dev Shed Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 550 Stink Sleeve User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 11 h 17 m 26 sec
Reputation Power: 6
*I am not in any legal position to offer pure legal advice.

Unfortunately, whether there is a dispute or not, the only thing that
matters here are two things:

1.) Who was the person that made the transaction? Whether the web
developer used the client's credit card and or not. Who's name is
on the registrants info? Who's credit card was used?

2.) Should the domain name legally belong to the web developer,
is the domain name the name of a legally registered business name?
If so than there can be a case for cyber-squatting if the
domain matches that of a legally registered business name.

*I am not in any legal position to offer pure legal advice.
__________________
Download Mozilla Firefox Now!

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old August 28th, 2003, 02:27 PM
John AlphaOne John AlphaOne is offline
Junior Member
Dev Shed Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Brighton, UK
Posts: 5 John AlphaOne User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: < 1 sec
Reputation Power: 0
1. The web developer made the transaction, registered the domain in their own name and paid on their card. The cost, however, would have been passed on to the client as part of the overall invoice for the development work.

2. The domain name is quite specific to the trading name of the client. However, I don't think that it is a legally registered name - not a limited company (UK based).

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old August 29th, 2003, 09:24 AM
drgroove's Avatar
drgroove drgroove is offline
pushing envelopes, not pencils
Dev Shed God 2nd Plane (6000 - 6499 posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 6,223 drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)drgroove User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Day 4 h 32 m 57 sec
Reputation Power: 174
Quote:
Originally posted by John AlphaOne
1. The web developer made the transaction, registered the domain in their own name and paid on their card. The cost, however, would have been passed on to the client as part of the overall invoice for the development work.

2. The domain name is quite specific to the trading name of the client. However, I don't think that it is a legally registered name - not a limited company (UK based).


I don't know what to say... if your client has a line-item invoice which shows they were billed for the registration transaction, you might have a good case.

I really think your best bet is to determine if its worth fighting over first; if so, contact a trademark or property rights lawyer; if not, move your site to a new domain name.

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old August 29th, 2003, 09:30 AM
John AlphaOne John AlphaOne is offline
Junior Member
Dev Shed Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Brighton, UK
Posts: 5 John AlphaOne User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: < 1 sec
Reputation Power: 0
Thanks - I think you're right - it's only a small company, so it's got to be cheaper to get stationery reprinted etc than to get the lawyers involved.

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old August 29th, 2003, 11:19 AM
fube11 fube11 is offline
Junior Member
Dev Shed Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1 fube11 User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: < 1 sec
Reputation Power: 0
Send a message via Yahoo to fube11
Another option

You didn't mention how much is allegedly owed to the developer. It may be cheaper to pay him off, especially if he really is owed the money. They may be able to reach an agreement for less than the developer wants but more than the client wants to pay. The client would get to keep his indetity, which I think would be worth quite a bit.

Last edited by fube11 : August 29th, 2003 at 11:21 AM.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Viewing: Dev Shed ForumsWeb Site ManagementBusiness Help > Reclaiming .com domain


Thread Tools  Search this Thread 
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes  Rate This Thread 
Rate This Thread:


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
View Your Warnings | New Posts | Latest News | Latest Threads | Shoutbox
Forum Jump

 Free IT White Papers!
 
Accelerating Trading Partner Performance
One in five. That's how many partner transactions have at least one error. That is an amazing statistic, particularly given the extraordinary leaps in innovation across the global supply chain during the past two decades. Download this white paper to learn more.

 
Competing on Analytics
This Tech Analysis is designed to help identify characteristics shared by analytics competitors, and includes information about 32 organizations that have made a commitment to quantitative, fact-based analysis.

 
Cost Effective Scaling with Virtualization and Coyote Point Systems
An overview of the industry trend toward virtualization, how server consolidation has increased the importance of application uptime and the steps being taken to integrate load balancing technology with virtualized servers.

 
Five Checkpoints to Implementing IP Telephony
Implementation planning for IP PBX software and IP telephony has become vital as businesses replace discontinued legacy PBX phone systems. This informative whitepaper outlines five "checkpoints" for any implementation plan that will help make IP communications a successful proposition.

 
Hosted Email Security: Staying Ahead of New Threats
In the last two years, email has become a fierce battleground between the nefarious forces of spam and malware, and the heroes of messaging protection. The spam volumes increased alarmingly every month, bringing clever new forms of phishing and virus propagation attacks.

 

Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
  
 





© 2003-2008 by Developer Shed. All rights reserved. DS Cluster 2 hosted by Hostway