Page 2 - WARNING : YliaP STOLE MY MONEY SHE IS A THIEF

I was doing some research and found a website where a person or company can post a proyect and developers will bid on it, the person can check their username to see their feedback from other proyects they've completed and then pick a developer based on their feedback and price... i though it was interensing and it seems like a pretty safe website for proyects...

here's the link http://www.scriptlance.com/

if you want to outsource project well, you need to find a person out of that country, who lives here and who at list once a year goes there and keeps his buisness relationship with the developers he is working with in his home country, that never got me in probs ; ) so in case of paying money, well you will end up usually paying 100$-550$ more, just to that guy depending on project, and plus u got your *** covered as you will pay him and he will pay them, usually u cna meet with that person or even call them and so on and so forth. so yeah i am here to help lol : ) although i am busy at this moment, but we can always agree on something : ))

Sites like scriptlance only create the relationship between the coder and buyer. They do not ensure the safe delivery of the money (those things still have to be worked out between the two parties). One party can still request the money up front and some unlucky person can still pay them and get screwed over.

The feedback is helpful at times, but should not really be relied on for safe business deals.

yes, you are right, " it only creates the relationship between the coder and buyer, it does not ensure the safe delivery of the money", just check on the person's feedback, if a person has 20+ clients that have left good feedback, it is most likely that the person is reliable... negociate with him, if you don't like him, pick another one!... i don't know of a site that can ensure that the deal will be met as planned or your money back... is there one?

Thanks guys for your joining me my problem, actually i got amazed when i saw all those replies, coz long time i didnt visit the forum.

this lady her name is Yulia pavilchenko ,
from ukrain,
from a city called chernigov,
her e-mail address is yuliya%chernihiv.org
and i have her mobile number. +380505433804

thanks alot for your help i will be thankful and she will be shocked when someone in her neighbourhood will deal with the problem and helps me.

Unfortunately, I read this too late.

Yuliya stole $200 from me. It is the same person. She now has a yahoo email/IM account.

Please spread the word about her. Really, it is terrible. She even sends you a picture of her holding her child. Most people think that a mother must be honest. Gees!

Here is her site: http://www.yuliya.pavlichenko.com/

If you do a Google search on her, you will see that she is hitting all the tech forums trying to get other suckers.

- he asked me to put developed files onto his server
- i kept all flash source,swf's,php script, mysql db

- and inquired money , he simply vanished saying as he is not having enough money to pay while he agreed to pay as decided earlier

so now a days, its not only coder scam, even buyer scam

thank you ALL for reading this

I know I'm replying to an old post, but since this topic has recent activity, it seems fair game....


Yes. Guru.com offers a system to hold money until both sides agree that payment is OK. If there is no agreement, they will arbitrate.

There is another site that offers the same feature. I don't remember the name of it. Might have been e-lance.com, but that's just a guess.

-Tony

I didn't have much problems with Scriptlance either. And I'm a programmer there.

Only once I wasn't paid for the project - I haven't finished it in time I quoted at first. Client agreed to extend the period - but few days latter he changed his mind and wished to cancel the project. So I had no option but to cancel the escrow ...

BTW. Escrow on Scriptlance isn't real escrow. Check their forums (and FAQ) - there were cases when escrow was canceled by SL staff even if project was rendered.

So for larger projects (more than ~ $300) I suggest to both parties (webmasters and programmers) to make payments in several parts. Place the first part in escrow at the start, then release it on first project milestone and place the second payment in escrow at the same time ...etc.

Also very important. Check the Feedback. I imagine that it wouldn't be hard to fake them by registering as a webmaster and choosing yourself on several projects. But as suggested - make sure there is feedback from several different webmasters and probably some larger projects (more than ~ $100).

If I were a webmaster I wouldn't risk by choosing an freelancer without (or with very little) feedback on some larger project. Test it out on some smaller amounts at first.

Just 2 cents from a decent freelancer ...

I'm sorry to be a wise guy, but if I could inject a little humor into a bad situation...

I was just watching a re-run of an old "King of Queens" episode te other night. The fat guy had hired a Russian company to fix his mold problem. Long story short, they started a job, (showing up at all hours of the night, and proclaiming "we're from mold company" - in full Russian accent) tore the house up, and didn't show up for days. When threatened, they said they'd fix it in 2 weeks.

Fat guy and wife go to the lawyer, and the lawyer says, "if I were you, I'd start kissing some keester."

Fat guy finds the boss of the "mold company", gets drunk on Vodka with them, and the next day, they are back to work.

I'd hate to ruin the rest of the episode, but when faced with a no-win situation, maybe the best thing is to "kiss a little keester." (well, it worked on the show, anyway)

hi,

have you ever been able to get her back? I'm starting to think she jsut did the same think with me. Plz contact me

I agree. Another problem with SL: buyer can accept coder's bid and never put money to escrow. Just because buyer don't want to use escrow service. And coder too lazy or to naive to work whereas money not escrowed to 3rd party, i.e. SL

Or - let's use another service. With real escrow. Where escrow can't be cancelled "just because", but via arbitration process only. Examples:
1. "The coder (XXX) was unable to complete the requirements, but did provide documentation showing that this was not possible to accomplish using a Lotus Domino server. The buyer's (YYY) escrow money was refunded."
2. "The seller (ABCDE) agreed in their Seller Contract to upload all deliverables to the site by the deadline or they would forfeit the project. khurrambinumer did not do so. All funds in escrow were returned to the buyer (FGHIJK)."

All of this is in opposite to safe job auction with escrow service and strict arbitration service.