Computer Hardware
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me

The Shed is going Social! Join us on FaceBook and Twitter and chime in on the conversation.

Go Back   Dev Shed ForumsComputer HardwareComputer Hardware

Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread Dev Shed Forums Sponsor:
  #1  
Old November 21st, 2010, 01:51 PM
RWMIII RWMIII is offline
Registered User
Dev Shed Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3 RWMIII User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 25 m 15 sec
Reputation Power: 0
Graphics Card help

I am wanting to purchase a decent graphics card for my father for christmas. He does not have the best computer in the world(specs below) but he has recently gotten into alot of video editing for bands and stuff. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Computer:
Emachines ET1810-01

CPU:
IntelŽ CeleronŽ Processor 420
(1.60GHz, 512KB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB)

RAM: 4GB DDR2

Chipset : NVIDIAŽ GeForceŽ 7050

Operating System:
Windows 7 Ultimate x86

Current Video Card and specs:
Integrated NVIDIAŽ GeForceŽ 7050

Memory speed: DDR2 667
Graphics clock: 500 MHz

This computer only has a 250W ATX power supply, so if needed I know that a standard ATX supply thats P4 ready will work.

Open slots: 1-PCI-e x16, 1-PCI-e x1, and 2 PCI

Thanks again.

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old November 22nd, 2010, 11:20 AM
salem's Avatar
salem salem is online now
Contributed User
Click here for more information
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,836 salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)salem User rank is General 12nd Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)  Folding Points: 153 Folding Title: Novice Folder
Time spent in forums: 2 Months 3 Weeks 2 Days 16 h 14 m 9 sec
Reputation Power: 1774
How do you incrementally upgrade a horse and cart without the result looking silly?

Your rig as it stands is a fairly balanced set of components (chosen to meet a price-point) which work well together. Replacing just one of them with something "much better" would generally mean that the extra money you spent on "much" is wasted, because the rest of the system can't keep up.

You can put an engine in the wooden cart, but it still won't do more than 20mph, otherwise the stresses imposed by the engine would just tear it apart.

> This computer only has a 250W ATX power supply,
Top rated graphics cards would use all of that by themselves
Typically, if your rig needs X-Watts of power, then you need a good power supply (not something cheap in a "budget" machine) rated at about 2X-Watts (so it is loaded at 50%).
The max rating is to cover transients without it shutting down completely. If you run it close to it's max from the outset, it will get very hot (and inherently less efficient with it), the fans will be audible in the next room and it's life will be measured in months at best. The system will be prone to shutdowns and reboots in the meantime.

250W will only be enough to cover what you have, and replacement on a "like-for-like" basis. Significant upgrade would require a new PSU.


TBH, finding something 6 to 12 months old on ebay which has a much better base spec might be the way to go, for not a lot more than what you might pay for a spiffy new graphics card (which you couldn't use all of anyway), and a new PSU.
__________________
If you dance barefoot on the broken glass of undefined behaviour, you've got to expect the occasional cut.
If at first you don't succeed, try writing your phone number on the exam paper

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old November 22nd, 2010, 02:12 PM
RWMIII RWMIII is offline
Registered User
Dev Shed Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3 RWMIII User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 25 m 15 sec
Reputation Power: 0
I fully try to appreciate any and all replies that I do recieve on any message board. The only thing that I ask is that my whole post be read before attempting to degrade what I am doing. As stated before, this is a simple upgrade for my fathers computer. I stated that it had only a 250W power supply, but if need be, could be upgraded. I am not looking to acheive gaming speed graphics here. Just something that is above what is preinstalled. I understand that this is a "budget" computer, but it was his purchase choice. I am just attempting to perform a small upgrade to help the performace of the graphics for the purpose of video editing.

Now if someone could please reply with an actual direction or even better, a known upgrade card for this computer, it would be much appreciated.

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old November 27th, 2010, 06:20 PM
karsh44's Avatar
karsh44 karsh44 is offline
Just another guy
Dev Shed Frequenter (2500 - 2999 posts)
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,953 karsh44 User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)karsh44 User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)karsh44 User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)karsh44 User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)karsh44 User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)karsh44 User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)karsh44 User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)karsh44 User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)karsh44 User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Weeks 11 h 52 m 38 sec
Reputation Power: 260
Well, nearly any stand alone card will be an improvement from the integrated graphics. As stated before, plan on updating the power supply as well. That being the case, a combo like this or this will offer both the needed psu upgrade and video upgrade at a reasonable price. Obviously you can get much better graphics cards than those, but I would say it is not worth the cost given the rest of the components.
__________________
--Dave--

U2kgSG9jIExlZ2VyZSBTY2lzLCBOaW1pdW0gRXJ1ZGl0aW9uaXMgSGFiZXM=

My hobby: collecting US coins

Reply With Quote
Reply

Viewing: Dev Shed ForumsComputer HardwareComputer Hardware > Graphics Card help

Developer Shed Advertisers and Affiliates



Thread Tools  Search this Thread 
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes  Rate This Thread 
Rate This Thread:


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
View Your Warnings | New Posts | Latest News | Latest Threads | Shoutbox
Forum Jump

Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
  
 


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

© 2003-2013 by Developer Shed. All rights reserved. DS Cluster - Follow our Sitemap