p4 3.2 temp

hi there

i use an p4 3.2 northwood processor with an epox 4pca3 motherboard 2 papst case fans and stock p4 cooler
and artic silver heatsink cooler paste
i have never over clocked anything so it is running on normal settings

here is my problem

on idle my temp in bios says 60 degrees celcius
and on load (using hot cpu) the temp goes to and sometimes exeeds 80 degrees celcius
to me that seems much to high
i also use an p4 2.66 and that is on max load only 50 degrees

my retailer says my 3.2 temps are normal witch i cant believe
so who can help me and tell me what the normal temps should be

kind regards john73

Does your system shut down when the temp reaches 80?

those temps seem to high. a good temp (my guess) for intel cpu's would be maybe 50c i guess.not really sure.

nope system has not shut down till this point

Those temps are very high, I would expect the cpu to be throttling its speed down to control the temperature when you're up around 80c. It won't shut itself down until almost 100c, but you definitely don't want to go near that.
You should be idling in the mid to high 30's C, up to around 50c under full load (all this depends on your cooling solution, ambient temperature, and the airflow in and around your case)
If your retailer is saying 80c is normal, they are flat wrong, and I would find someone else.

ambient temp is about 20 degrees and case temp 33
so i dont think there is a problem there

in the end i bought an gigabyte 3d cooler
and that gets the temp down by 17 degrees so on full load still around 65 degrees
and about the retailer i have already bought it and wont get my money back so i think i have to go through intel to get some progress
but i have called them in the netherlands and there only answer was we dont give out any information
so i really dont know what to do now

Is your computer in an enclosure or something that would restrict airflow? Do you have all the fans that your case will support?
65 under load probably won't cause any problems, its just higher than average. If you can add a fan or clear space around the computer, do so. Also clean out any dust in the case. After doing these things, I would say you've done all you easily can, and you're not risking any hardware.

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sSpec Number
SL6WE
Processor Frequency
3.20 GHz CPUID String
0F29
Package Type
478 pin PPGA Core Voltage
1.25V-1.400V
Bus Speed
800 MHz Thermal Guideline
82.0W
Core Stepping
D1 Thermal Spec
70°C
L2 Cache Size
512 KB Manufacturing Technology
0.13 micron
L2 Cache Speed
3.20 GHz Bus/Core Ratio



this is the info as i can find it on the intel site
the thermal spec is that the max temp or am i reading it not good

since mine exeeds 80 c

That temp is the recommended max temp to avoid reliability problems and shortened lifespan. You said you are under that now, so while 65 is still pretty high, it shouldn't be dangerous to the hardware.

Just happened through and I have to say that your temps are far, FAR too high for a northwood core. I have a 3.0Ghz Northwood clocked to 3.6, and under prolonged max load rarely reaches above 42C air cooled. You said that the case temps were higher by nearly 13C, which I think is a major part of the problem. My ambient is around 26 C with case hitting about 28. A few things that really helped me were a side fan blowing INWARD (some cases have them installed blowing outward) and a blow hole. I have a 92mm side fan, a 92mm blow hole, and a rear 120mm intake. This drops the cpu idle temps around to 2 degrees higher than the motherboard, rarely more than that.
A few sidenotes: when in the bios screen, the processor is not idle, but under around 35% - 50% load. I don't know why, but it is.

HTH,
Detrifuse

PS one thing I did to help figure out the cause of my temp problems before I fixed them was run it briefly with the case off. The idea was to gauge the heat transfer between the CPU and heatsink. I actually wound up replacing the stock one, and that dropped my temps a bit.