June 16th, 2004, 05:47 PM
System Zone 2 Overheating
I just built myself a new computer for the first time. I'm having trouble with this Intel Active monitior but i don't want to just shut it off incase i'm wrong. I've gotten the CPU to stay in the 45-60C range and System Zone 1 to Stay in the 35-45C range but , System Zone 2 keeps hitting 55 C. Now I have 3 frans on intake in the front, 1 on the Side also intake, 2 fans in the back on outake. Not to mention the Graphics card fan and the Heatsink/CPU fan.
Now after reading alot of the posts I don't see any other temps posted other than CPU temps so I made a thread. If you guys could tell me what the proper temps are for System zones 1 & 2 that would be great! And if i'm doing anything wrong with the coolling setup.
June 17th, 2004, 01:10 AM
Please tell me h/w configuration.
mine is P4 2.66 ghz with H.T. technology with m/b intel 865 gbf.
I am also having same problem,Try to increase sensor threhold values.
It is only when we trying playing games.i have increased it to 70
system works fine if temp exceed this limit,it return to normal in 5 sec.
It may be a problem with intel active monitor software itself.
I search on intel site a new version of is intel active monitor availiable,we can try it out.
Please tell me the symptoms when system overheats.
I have no problem in listening songs and playing high graphics game simultaneously.
Performance is best fan speed increase about 4500 rpm.
proccessor zone temp is 68 degree celcius by default which never exceeds.
System zone 1 also have no problems.
plz tell me how to figure it out
June 17th, 2004, 08:45 AM
I Guess I should have put that down in the first thread, But I'm new to posting. Thank you for replying! Ok this is what i got:
P4 3.0Mhz ( not Overclocked) With Hyper threading enabled
Mother Board is a Intel D865PERL
1 Gig of ram
1 200 Gig master HD
1 80 Gig Slave HD
1 Radeon 9600 Pro 256 MD vid card
1 DVD X16 drive
1 CD R drive
Windows xp Home as O/S
I had the stock Heatsink and CPU fan from Intel for my P4 but, After reading in the forums. I found they used a thermal patch between the heatsink and the CPU which after read many posts and i agree is Junk. Cause my Cpu temp would always go up to 70 (some times higher!) the minute i tried to run a game! So I got the Cool Master Jet 4 which came with some better (Thermal Goop?). Now my Cpu stays in the 45-60 C range.
System Zone 1 has never given me problems either. But System Zone 2 keeps hitting 50 C, Which sets of the intel active monitor. Then i get pop up alerts until i shut down the currant program. Usually it is a game. I'm afraid to rasie System Zone 2 Threshold , I really don't want it to melt after spending all the time and money putting it together.
So i'm looking to find out what is System Zone 2, and what is it ok to raise the temp to without damaging my system.
June 18th, 2004, 12:45 AM
query response for redgrave
The system zone 2 is the zone where RAM is installed.i.e.
system zone 1 is the zone near the processor zone.
You can increase it to any value,since these values are
approximate,if god forbid system overheats then it will be
June 18th, 2004, 07:49 AM
Thank you Dhiraj969!
OK great so i'll just slap some heatsinks on the ram and up the threshold value. Thank you for putting my mind ease!
August 10th, 2004, 11:37 AM
Originally Posted by Redgrave
August 10th, 2004, 11:39 AM
i have a P4 3Ghz on a Intel D865GBF mb with 2-512MB DDR Ram(KingstonHyper X) running with the HT.
I just recently installed the Active Monitor and my System Zone 2 Alarm just keeps going nuts. It seems to only do it when i play games. i read the previous posts and was just wondering what the threshhold could be be safely set to. i have heatsinks on both the RAM chips. Currently its set to 50 C. any help would be greatly appreciated.
August 10th, 2004, 11:46 AM
I'm not familiar with System Zone Alarm but don't cofuse the alarm setting with a shutdown setting. I've installed a cpu/mobo alarm system on my PC but it's just that, an alarm system. You can set the alarm threshholds whereever you want them. If your Alarm keeps going off, you have 3 options, change the PC to keep it withing the alarm range, change the alarm ranges or deal with the constant alarms. On my PC, the -12Volt alarm is constantly triggered. I can't fix that so I raised the alarm range.
December 22nd, 2004, 04:43 AM
I honestly think that the Intel D865Perl boards are prone to this problem. I have the following system:
Intel 3.2 GHz HT CPU
Intel D865Perl motherboard
I GB RAM
NVidia 6800 Ultra 256MB graphics card
I don't believe the other components make a significant difference, but I have 3 case fans and an exhaust blower and my system 2 sensor also exceeds the threshold. It never seems to go higher than around 55 or 56 degrees Celcius, so I have decided to try and live with it, but it is frustrating...
January 5th, 2005, 12:21 AM
I have done some testing, you may want to view how it went
Apparently either the intel machines are really slow due to the load it received in this simple test, or they just dont know how to design chips anymore
January 7th, 2005, 12:34 PM
After searching in the Web for info about this problem I have read your posts and let me share me experience,
My System is as follows,
CPU INTEL 3.2 GHZ P 4
Motherboard Intel 865 Perl
1 GB Ram DUAL CHANNEL Kingston Memory
1 CDRW DRIVE
1 DVDRW Drive
1 DVD ROM DRIVE
1 Maxtor HDD 40 GB
1 Seagate SATA 160 GB HDD
ATI RADEON 9800 Pro Video Card
Demon Dual Fan 580 Watts Power Supply
My cooling solutions besides the demon dual fan power supply are one Thermaltake cooling system which consists in one rear blower extractor and one front fast and noisy fan. There is also another fan in the acrylic panel of the case, and finally a three in line fans for my SATA HDD installed below it.
All the mentioned solutions have appeared due to my great anger with the zone 2 alarm of the motherboard. I started with two fans and now I am with the configuration mentioned but with no success. I start a game and the alarm begins to sound. Sometimes also bothers the Processor Alarm but this is more strange due to the fact I dont notice any performance decrease. I know you can always turn the active monitor off but I am afraid that maybe I am killing my PC and the alarms are right. The same happened to me with my old Intel MB MD850.
Two facts may cause the problem...My case is a generic one...I mean it is a large and tall case with lot of ventilation but it isnít a Thermaltake with all its Thermal Certifications. I really donít know if having a good Thermaltake case would solve the problem. The other fact is that my room is a small one with a thick floor carpet and the PC is standing in a corner of the room. With two walls behind may be there isnít any room for the air to flow.
Although I believe the two facts mentioned above may have some importance in the temperature impact, with all the cooling systems I have inside my case I really think this should be enough ( really I donít know what else to add ). I have also kept the case opened and even my windows full open and the result is the same even only viewing a DVD movie.
One more thing. Keeping my PC idle, I mean without running any application I have loaded the active monitor and have been watching for nearly half an hour the temperature readings. I noticed something important that I would appreciate if anyone can confirm. I can assure that my problem isnít a temperature one, because the threshold isnít constantly passed. I mean, what triggers the alarms isnít a constant 60ļ ( for example) temperature reading in Zone 2. It is rather constant fluctuations in the readings. I have seen in this half an hour of observation variations of temperature reading from 32ļC ( sorry I cannot remember the conversion to ļF ) to 48, or even 52 ļC in less than 2 seconds and from Zone 1, Zone 2, etc. So the alarms triggers by this variations and not by a constant high temperature. I also have played a heave 3D game, and after 15 minutes of alarms sounding I have minimized the game and loaded the active monitor to see all temperature readings higher than in idle PC mode ( thatís obvious ) but the same strange and great instantly reading variations from 50ļC to 80 ļC in less than 2 seconds. My knowledge in thermodynamics tells me that it isnít likely for a system to have more than 10 ļC of variations in so little time. So I think the problem is in the readings not in the temperature itself. Can someone check this?
I have tried BIOS and Active Monitor upgrades without success. I have also reinstalled Windows XPÖSo I really donít know what to do. I donít want to spend more money if the problem cannot be solved and since my only other step is buying an expensive Thermaltake Case, I will feel cheated if after buying it the same alarms began to sound. Also I have thought about an independent panel to read temperature with probes in all my important hardware gadgets. But that panel in my country cost half the price of a Thermaltake Case, so maybe it is better to buy the case right away. But the panel may give correct reading. Have anyone checked temperature readings with panels like the Hardcano from Thermaltake or the AeroGate from Coolermaster?. This would be an useful information to post. Well..really donít know what to doÖ.Any suggestion?...Intel hasnít answered my email in which I asked the same things you read in my postÖWell thanks for your time.
January 8th, 2005, 06:26 PM
P4HT D865PERL System Zone 2 Overheating
Before this, I have never found a forum thread that is more DEAD-ON to the problem that I have been having.
Paraiso STOP !! DO NOT BUY THE NEW CASE. THE PROBLEM WONT STOP !
I have the P4 2.8Ghz Prescott 800fsb 1MB L2cache
Intel motherboard D865PERL
100GB & 80GB Western Digital 8mb buffered HDDs
Centon Dual Channel kit 1GB pc3200 400Mhz RAM
BOX - CoolerMaster Wave Master TAC-T01-E1C
Asylum GeForce FX 5900Ultra
Blah Blah Blah Blah
WE ALL HAVE GOOD SH*T
And we are all getting the same PROBLEM. Man this is really pissin me off. I am so fed up with everytime I log onto battlefield 42 within 2 mins to 20 mins that system zone 2 wigs out on my ACTIVE MONITOR.
I did it all like most of you.
Turned down I/O Burn-in Mode in chipset settings in BIOS
installed HDD Fans
& good Ram Heatsinks
7 Fans (9 if u count the two in my powersupply)
Better Chipset Heatsink
Better thermal paste for all heatsinks
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ then lastly a
New Tower thats like a refrigerator
NONE OF IT WORKED. Still getting the problem.
I guess my only option is at this point. To give up on the D865PERL motherboard. I should have gotten the extreme edition it was only 50 more damn $$ and I chinced. LAME.
All this crap over a damn motherboard WHICH I THOUGHT I LOVED> But its turned out to be more like HATE.
I DID IT ALL, NOTHING HELPED> WASTE OF TIME
January 9th, 2005, 06:04 PM
Zone 2 overheating
I've got the same problem that everybody here.
My configuration is:
P4 2,8 Ghz Prescott L2 1Mo
512 Mo RAM
Actually there must be a problem with this motherboard. I reached the customer service of Intel France in September and what they just tried to do was to find something wrong on my computer: they told me I need a special box "38įc heat with air duct". According to your experiences, it's not a way to resolve this problem.
I've sent yesterday a second new e-mail asking them if they already have thought of compensating us for all the troubles we have with their motherboard. I've given them too the link of this forum page.
Apparently some of you have spent a lot of money in fans, boxes, RAM, etc. There must be an end!
Our demand is justified, fair: nowadays, in this computerized world (!!), we need computers that WORK. If it doesn't work, we want to be paid back or get another thing that is ok, whatever the costs are for Intel... They should matter wether we are satisfied of their products.
see you then!
January 9th, 2005, 11:39 PM
simple fix for Zone 2
I do not claim to be a pro, however the problem of over heating Zone 2 on an Intel D865Perl lead me right to this forum for answers. I found no help here but I have fixed this issue and temperatures are operating within active monitor default settings under all of my big games displayed in highest settings... Doom 3 was built for future technology and will not run under its highest setting yet. So don't fight it, just use the (high) configuations. Here are my simple stats;
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
Intel P4, socket 478, 865PERL
CPU Penitum 4, 3.0GHz, 800 Mhz
RAM DDR 400, 1024MB PC3200 (adding ram did not fix anything)
120GB Harddrive, 400 Watt power supply
(on or off, heat generating lighting accessories and big fans pulling in or out, had little effect on Zone 2's eventual over heating)
Over heating Zone 2 did not stop until I updated the bios for the 865PERL board from the Intel website (one click, automated and very easy to do). I also pointed a medium size blower directly on the Zone 2 area just for good measure. I am not sure which thing fixed the over heating warnings from but this is very simple stuff fellows and it surprized me to acheive this after reading all the complaints in this forum.
If you do not know where Zone 2 is on your 865P's please read more about it here...
Good luck and good gaming Dudes!
January 10th, 2005, 12:50 PM
Originally Posted by D865P's hotfix
I recieved a response from INTEL regarding the problem. As you say, they told me to upgrade the BIOS of my motherboard. The problem is that I am pretty sure I upgraded to the last update available, with no success. Do you have the number of the last bios update?.
By the way thanks Mikedk78 for your response...I was nearly ready to buy the expensive thermal certified case.Although it is never a bad inversion for the PC I think I will wait.
Finally as I asked in my last post, does anyone have an independent panel to check temperature of the CPU, VGA Card, Memories..etc. so as to compare with Intel readings?..It is the easy way to see if Intel reading arent good...Thanks