alright guys.i planned on using a thermalright slk-948u with a dtr processor so i can overclock a great deal...but of course thermalright discontinued the 948 and i couldn't find one.

so now i'm going with a plain amd athlon 64 3000, or 3200 cpu but i need help deciding between these two heatsinks..

the pipe101 doesn't come with a fan, which i planned on using my own anyways, and the venus 12 comes with a 3-fin 80mm fan.