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Old April 6th, 2003, 06:31 PM
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Old April 6th, 2003, 06:43 PM
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Can we get some names of the Blatantly rude forum users. I know I am one, but I am sure i'm not the focus of this thread. Who are these rude forums users? Don't hide behind the keyboard, let the community know...
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Old April 6th, 2003, 06:45 PM
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It's just a forum, people. Don't get too upset about anything said on it. Really, does anything said on this forum have any real impact on your happiness? If so, you're taking it WAY too seriously. Go for a walk on the beach, cook a nice meal, go on a date do WHATEVER and online stuff seems pretty trivial.

That still doesn't excuse folks from showing a little courtesy and figuring out a community before they start polluting it with pointless questions. . .But what can you do except correct people when they need it, gently or not depending on your nature or mood?

I'm as sick about newbies complaining about rough treatment as I am seeing it (and ocassionally perpretrating it). . . Calm down and count to ten before you post, newbies and veterans alike.

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Old April 6th, 2003, 06:52 PM
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>> cook a nice meal

Fresh Maine Lobster Tail stuffed with Crab Imperial and a side dish of Steamed Shrimp (24 cnt) w/ Keylime Mustard Sauce...

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Old April 6th, 2003, 07:50 PM
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My dinner tonight was marinated portabella mushrooms broiled and served warm over mixed field greens with feta cheese and walnuts, with home-made bread on the side and washed down with a Samuel Adams Cream Stout. FWIW, I eat vegetarian 99% of the time. No preaching or extreme moral compunctions, just a health and taste preference. When I do ocassionally break my vegetarian diet, lobster is WAY up there. . .
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Old April 6th, 2003, 08:34 PM
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Hero Zzyzzx, did you cook that yourself? If so, I'm impressed, hehe. o_O

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it just fat in meat (either fat which is part of the meat - the white stuff - of fat one cooked it in) which is unhealthy? All the protein in meat is good for you!

And what does FWIW stand for?

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Well my dinner was terrible tonight, I am still suffering with a bad stomach from it, there is no beach near me and I'm not allowed out of the house for a walk because the streets are to dangerous, now what eh Hero?? Eh Eh?? Comon you think your so clever don't you, with all those posts you have helped people with! Don't you realise my whole life is governed by how the forum treats me on a daily basis. BTW That thread where you were rude to me, telling me to read the rules, stuff your rules where the sun don't shine. I told my brother about you and he will hunt you down and teach you some rules of his!!!!

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JP I consider myself one of these blantantly rude users, I tend to follow my own policy, which is if the poster has under 10 posts, I am polite I help a little and I point them in the direction of the rules, if they have a larger number of posts they are clearly rude people themselves for not bothering to read the help threads and thus my responces come up shorter and ruder.

However I put it to the people moaning that if you take any single 'blatantly rude' member and count up the total number of satisfied and happy newbs who have had help against the number of people who were soo offended you will find that the former number is a great deal larger than the later.
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Old April 6th, 2003, 09:06 PM
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Well, put it to them this way: if they want help, they should follow the rules. No rules, no help. Simple as that. They think we're rude? Okay, then, we'll continue being rude and not help them. Personally, I think some of the ruder members of these forums are among those that ask for help. Many times, they don't describe the problem well enough, didn't search for one of the dozen other times their issue was addresses, and then get upset at us when we tell them where they're wrong and/or to describe their problem better. If they don't like us, they can leave; they probably aren't the type of people that will help other users and make the forums a useful resource.

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Old April 6th, 2003, 09:33 PM
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oh yeah, just what this place needs is another sticky thread. hell make 10 more sticky threads so we can scroll two pages down just to see the real topics. it's real user friendly to require new visitors to spend 2 hours reading before theyre allowed to make a post.

And on your first point, yeah there are far too many pompous asshats around here who wear their registration date like a badge of honor or something. answer the newb questions or don't answer the newb questions, but quit acting like youre important because of your post count. (rant not directed at you drgroove, just the asshats around here (you know who you are))


Another thought I had was to move all of the 'rules' stickies as 'must reads' before your forum registration goes through. Kind of like the 'software license' model... some text w/ a checkbox, where you can't finish your registration until you've checked the 'I agree' box.

Perhaps this model would abate the gratuitous stickies...
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ok very appropriate replies people hope you enjoy your lunch , & please don't fall out of your high-chairs.

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However I put it to the people moaning that if you take any single 'blatantly rude' member and count up the total number of satisfied and happy newbs who have had help against the number of people who were soo offended you will find that the former number is a great deal larger than the later.


Agreed, so what ? does that address the issue enough to sweep it under the carpet ? , you can't please everyone but the effort required to try is not hard, in fact propably easier than being rude.

Jpenn , there is no point pointing fingers at such and such a person , also I appreciate that those who tend to be rude also tend to be very knowledgeable .

But as a mod should you not try and set the tone of the conversation ? should you not lead by example? , honestly I don't think you always do.

I took down my link to devshed some time ago now after seeing the treatment here of some users which at the time was worse than it is now , with FreeBSD telling all and sundry to F off in both the apache and PHP forums with no visible attempt from the moderators to censor , now thats only a few million page views per month but remember that devshed is seen as a major PHP resource along with phpbuilder and sitepoint & friends , if you want devshed to remain the premier resource for PHP (next to .NET of course) then a little thought could go a long way

why alienate people if its not strictly neccy (<- no I can't spell it) ???

as to the 'they should have read the forum rules' remarks ... do me a favour , did you read your EULA? , you ever read the GPL ? , did YOU read the rules and TOS in every forum , ok ANY forum that you ever joined ?

answers on a postcard please.
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Am I rude? Am I? AM I??!? C'mon punk bring it on!!! AM I RUDE??!?! You better watch it now, mister, I hope somone's got your back!

Guys, this is laughable - why is everyone so hyper-sensitive nowadays? A man can't make one smartarse comment without being labled crude-rude-dude for the rest of his life. In my humble opinion - if I ask something and freebsd or hero or rod or rycamor or sepo tell me to 'fck off and rtfm' I'm probably going to do just that - make a research. So what if they puts it in slightly different terms? They have deserved to be respected for their knowledge in certain areas.

If people are nice - that's a benefit, if people are rude - I couldn't care less, I'm going online for the information and not to get this warm fuzzy feeling inside that people like me and make me feel good and if they don't I get upset and run to my mommy. "mommy, mommy, freebsd told me to fck off!! again!!! mommy, what is fck?!?".

Ok I agree that people should watch their language - but sometimes uneducated, arrogant, underage, know-it-alls just start cursing left and right, and what you going to do? Joe can't ban them for that, and seniors can't come back with dissing language because it's not approriate. Yet they need to be put back to their place, and that's where rudeness begins.

The reason why some say devshed is not so welcoming anywhere is because community is shifting focus from newbies and wannabies to people who actually want to learn. Silly people leave because they feel people are rude over and over again ("I got feelings you know!"), those who are after knowledge think "gee I must chagne something if other members keep on telling me I got wrong subject". Now personally, I am after second type of developers. phpbuilder is not. sitepoint is not. Yes, they have some austonishing brains there, and yes I do visit both of them and even scan thru the pages. But I wouldn't - and couldn't - be a long term member there.
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Old April 7th, 2003, 01:55 AM