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Old February 26th, 2003, 09:56 PM
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browsers of choice

This question may have already been asked here before. I was wondering what browsers you guys use and what your reasons for using them are. I’m mainly talking about Windows and Mac browsers, but I’m starting to use Linux too. I’m just getting sick of some little IE things so I’m thinking about Opera. What’s your opinion?
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Old February 26th, 2003, 11:41 PM
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Mozilla - and the variations or browsers built around it's architecture. Mainly becuase it is highly customizable, fast, stable, secure (and when a security leak is found, fixed quickly), open source, compliant, it's XUL capabilities, etc.. Pheonix (which uses the moz arch.) is a great browser. BTW, IMHO Mozilla is a much better choice than opera any day...
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Old February 26th, 2003, 11:46 PM
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Cool, I've used Mozilla before. I've heard some people complain about it being buggy, is that true? Also, NS7 looks very similar to Mozilla, is NS on of the "browsers built around it's architecture"? Thanks for input.

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Old February 27th, 2003, 01:00 AM
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IE and Mozilla on Windows

Mozilla and Konquerer on Linux
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Old February 27th, 2003, 07:16 AM
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Yes Netscape is based on Mozilla source code. I use Mozilla on windoze and it works very well. I am running version 1.2.1.
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Old February 27th, 2003, 09:36 AM
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IE 6
Mozilla 1.2.1
Opera 7

I chose them all mainly for testing webpages. I love Opera's speed, Mozilla's interface/customizability/stability, and I just don't have any problems with IE.

If tomorrow, I realized I hated IE with a passion, I would probably switch fulltime to Mozilla rather than Opera.

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I think that any browser using the Mozilla architecture is a great choice:

Netscape 7+
Mozilla (full "heavyweight" Mozilla browser and utilities)
Phoenix (lightweight, cross-platform)
Kmeleon (very lightweight Windows-only browser -- competes with Opera for speed)
Chimera (lightweight Mac-only browser)
Galeon (Unix-only lightweight browser)

So, you see from this broad range of choices that there is a good chance for Mozilla's underlying framework to become a cross-platform standard. This would be great, because it would bring a standardized DOM-compliant, full Javascript event-model to every system. (not to mention my favorite new technology XUL)

Opera is nice and fast, and fairly DOM-standard, but it is fairly lame in the area of Javascript support.

Konqueror, which is available on the Unix/Linux KDE desktop, is a nice browser, but still doesn't support full Javascript, as I understand it. They are making good progress, though. Also, it is interesting to note that Konqueror is the basis for the new Mac browser called Safari.

Notice that there is a real advantage to open source here, with both Mozilla and Konqueror. Open source promotes standards, and those standards can be used by more than one company. I don't argue that open source is necessary for all software, but for the software that defines our common information "roads and highways", we desparately need standards.
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Nice article here about how well the different browsers handle Javascript (on Mac systems only, though.) Note that Mozilla is the only one to properly execute every script in the test. http://developer.apple.com/internet...pt/jstests.html

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Old February 27th, 2003, 10:17 AM
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mozilla is my main browser,
mostly because its so customizable ( it even seems more stable and faster than ie6 on my pc, )


though i also use opera, konqueror, and ie when i check my sites,
and sometimes links/lynx to check if the sites is accessible,

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Depends which PC I'm on. But my main dev box, I use Opera for browsing because it's real fast and more compliant than Explorer. I use Mozilla for design, because of it's excellent debugging capabilities. And I use Explorer for...not much...I only use it to verify html for apps I write that host instances of Explorer.

On other boxes though, I usually just use Explorer since it's always there.

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Old February 27th, 2003, 01:21 PM
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Yes Netscape is based on Mozilla source code. I use Mozilla on windoze and it works very well. I am running version 1.2.1.


ditto. mozilla is the 'web developers browser of choice' in my opinion.... all of its features just seem custom tailored to development. moz just rox. i use moz on any box i'm working on

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Old February 27th, 2003, 01:24 PM
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i tried to convert some of the macs in my office from IE 5.1 to Mozilla. None of the users that were trialling it liked Mozilla

IE 5.1 on Mac just sucks, donst render half the pages right, and we are on MacOS 9.1 so we cant use Chimera. Any other good gecko based mac browser?

Think i might also get someone else to test it... hehehehe

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Old February 27th, 2003, 01:34 PM
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isn't chimera gecko based? ... oh wait, you're on os9... bummer.

didn't like moz on mac, eh? that blows my mind... when I was unreasonably forced to use Mac os 9.x for 18 months (which was one of the most miserable experiences of my short-*** life, btw), I found mozilla to be an island of stability and good coding in an ocean of unstable crap.

but, i'm not bitter, or anything.

what do they use in your office then, a.k? icab ? lol

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I just downloaded K-Meleon and I really like it. I think I'm going to start using it now and see how it works out. Thanks for all the wonderful input, you guys are awesome!

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