Can anyone help

It seems that no one is familiar with the information I was asking for earlier. So, does anyone know of any other sites with web dev forums that have lots of members and is highly active?

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>>1) Your thread subject does not fly in the technical forums in our community
Sonic, neither will your attitude. If you want something you go and get it. Same principle with information - you can't just sit there and wait 'till someone will do your homework for you.

There are tons of java chats out there, with some programming skills it is fairly easy to turn them into instant messaging system. All it takes is some patience and will to do it yourself and not rely on free help, which may or may not be available. It just so happens that devshed is not based on java developers, so you question will be better off asked on http://java.sun.com or http://www.javaboutique.internet.com and, of course, http://www.google.com

someone said it should be in another forum

The java ascept of it is not the main question. A java client is only part of the final solution. The main problem is how to implement instant messaging on a website. I mean do you have to have a IM host, do you have to go to an IM company like you go to a message board. What are the basics of doing it. It seems like no one knows anything about the basics of setting instant messaging on a website on an intranet.

>>The main problem is how to implement instant messaging on a website.
Table for users, table for messages. Java aplet running all the times and working with both tables. This is all there is to instant messaging system. Java applet is not part of the final solution, it is the solution itself.
You can take a look at this, it might be what you're looking for -> http://www.jmessenger.com/ and http://www.chatblazer.com/

attitude?

Well anyway, thanks for the jmessenger link. Just using a service was an option I was considering. As for java, my point about that was that I know how to do java applets to display the information. table for the users and another for messagse? Oh, I see what you mean. You mean on the applet itself to display both the messages and the users.


But how would that work specifially or IM, I can already see who it would work for a chat room?

You know I think I know how that would work. I'd had to change all the templates for my site. I'd have to add an extra link to posts, member list, online list, and profiles. It would have to be a link called "IM this user" or something like that. When you do that it would open an applet named after the user who clicked the link. I would put thier name and the user they are trying to send to in the table for users. Then to have a buddy list, I'd just have another table on the applet, in that table I'd put thier contact list. I mean the forum on the website already has a contact list, so it shouldn't be too hard to move that data over to the IM window. But for this site, it might be better to have seperate applets for thier contact list and for thier IMs. I'd have one applet that just shows thier contact list, and I just place a link on all pages on the site "open my contact list." But for the IM, it would have to open a different applet for every person they want to IM. I have noticed that a lot of sites use pagers where there window closes everytime you send a mesage(and I think they are actually html not java) rather than IMs, but they are very slow compared to instant messengers. I don't know why anyone would use them.

But it can not be that simple. There has to be something else to it. How would the message get from one person to another? I mean would I have to just have it send what you type to the mesage table? Where do IM servers come into play?

You know what I just thought about something. I should be able to figure this out simply from the way my chat room is setup. I could have the message table setup the same way as the part of the chat that shows the chat messages. I won't need the user list because I'll have a table for the two users. I guess it will be setup like private chatting. I don't know if you've ever used digichat, but when you private chat with someone it opens an applet instead of a complete other chat room. I guess I'll set it up like private chat without the main chat.

I reckon you're on the right track, but unfortuntaly I cannot help you any further as you're looking for answers from technical point of view (eg how do you get real time data without quering db each 1/10 of a second) and I have not done whole lot of java applets.

Did you say web dav?

http://www.webdav.org/mod_dav

Just checking There is post about webdav around in this forum ...

If you didn't say webdav disregard this message, if I wanted to setup chats I'd go to irc

Awesome, Z.

web dev I see, I'll go back to sleep ... what a day

Check out that link anyway