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    Countdown for nasty Windows virus


    
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    PC users have been urged to scan their computers before 3 February to avoid falling victim to a destructive virus. On that date the Nyxem virus is set to delete Word, Powerpoint, Excel and Acrobat files on infected machines.
    For those with windows or run windows apps via Wine on Linux, now is the time to update your machines. For Linux users clamav will do the trick.
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    Another Windows virus.........when will this madness end......
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    Bleh, if you have to have a warning to remind you to update, you deserve to lose everything. Auto updates and scheduled scans take 5 minutes to set, then you forget it.

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    Originally Posted by Veamon
    Bleh, if you have to have a warning to remind you to update, you deserve to lose everything. Auto updates and scheduled scans take 5 minutes to set, then you forget it.
    Do you wanna bet how many corporations (who have full time admins) and unsuspecting home users will be caught out? Wait till they come posting in the Antivirus/Windows Help forums.

    How many got a new pc with 30 days free AV, it runs out and they don't wanna pay up for a new one or get a free solution?

    For some reason or the other, people will ALWAYS be caught out. You'd only expect corporations and govt dept's to be better prepared.
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    This is why you backup your essential data to heavily encrypted media off-site. Then again, probably very few people do.

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    Yeah we have been warned by our IT support dudes - they are running around like made installing the new software which should have been instlalled 18 months ago - but they are just lazy gits....
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    Might I recommend a solution to the virus problem?

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    Originally Posted by dotancohen
    How is that a solution to the problem?

    Just because a Honda Accord is ten times more likely to be stolen than the car I drive, that does not make my car immune to auto-theft :-)

    A false sense of security is often worse than no security at all ..
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    ^ we are, however, talking odds of something like 1 million windows viruses to 1 linux virus. That makes your car one HELL of a lot less likely to get stolen.

    Do you wanna bet how many corporations (who have full time admins)
    The same ones that have incompetant admins. There are NO EXCUSES for an admin to screw this up.

    ****, why do people still use that pile of crap OS? At what point does hanging on just become stupid? I know there are applications that you need, but there must be some point at which the applications-required are not outwieghed by the sheer stupidity of the operating system.
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    While it may not help solve the problem, it does very much alleviate its effects. Generally speaking, virii/malware are spread and rampant for two reasons:

    Firstly, Windows was designed from the ground up as mainly a "single user" OS model, which means that the user running the machine generally has administrative capabilities, or sufficient rights to do things such as install/remove software and drivers, etc. More "modern" operating systems such as the various flavors of Unix and Unix-like systems do not suffer from this, as they were inherently designed to be used by many people, even simultaneously. Because of this, the security is generally more fool-proof on a *nix system than on Windows, as users can generally only add/change/remove their own files in their own "home" directories or other authorized paths. (Note: Windows and *nix can be just as secure if tweaked correctly. I mention this only because *nix tends to be much more secure by default.)
    It's also because of this design that Unix-ish systems tend to disregard filesystem fragmentation, as it generally is too small to cause little if any, ill effects on performance.

    Secondly, it's also social engineering task. Many people (especially those much less literate about technology or computing) have a habit of simply clicking "OK" without reading the warning messages, or clicking the "ZOMG SMILEYS IN TEH EMAIL!11" ads or spam mail, which then install malware without their knowledge. While this may be a broad generalization, I think it is safe to say that most people use use GNU/Linux or other Unix-ish operating systems are knowledgable enough about computing and technology to disregard these, or block them altogether.
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    Originally Posted by The Article
    Nyxem is thought to have caught out many people by promising porn to those who open the attachments on e-mail messages carrying the virus.
    Well, there's your solution right there. Stop opening the dammed pr0n attachments.
    Dear God. What is it like in your funny little brains? It must be so boring.
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    Originally Posted by crownjewel82
    Well, there's your solution right there. Stop opening the dammed pr0n attachments.
    Yep, everyone who gets the virus most likely deserved it.....stupid horny people....
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    A few better links:

    F-Secure's writeup, and link to free detection & removal tool. ( F-Secure have always been the best AV. Followed by NOD ).

    NOTE: this can and will delete files on Network shares - if ONE computer in your network gets infected, you're at risk.

    It will overwrite any file ending in : *.doc, *.xls, *.mdb, *.mde, *.ppt, *.pps, *.zip, *.rar, *.pdf, *.psd, *.dmp

    This will occur on the 3rd of feb, 30 minutes after you log-in ( usually ).

    LURHQ has more info, including snort signatures. and Statistics ( India, Peru & Italy look like they'll get hit hard ).

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    Originally Posted by SimonGreenhill
    NOTE: this can and will delete files on Network shares - if ONE computer in your network gets infected, you're at risk.
    Umm, should you really have network shares with any kind of sensitive data? I've got network shares completely disabled, but hey, I'm not everyone....

    *goes and downloads and runs f-force JIC; you can never be too careful*
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    Originally Posted by SimonGreenhill
    why do people still use that pile of crap OS? At what point does hanging on just become stupid? I know there are applications that you need, but there must be some point at which the applications-required are not outwieghed by the sheer stupidity of the operating system.
    Not in the foreseeable future. Everything I need is generally only available in Mac OS or 'Doz. I could, by shelling out about $10,000 (a pittance, you say?) completely convert everything to Mac. That's not including the cost of the Mac itself ... not the time to relearn it all, nor my personal annoyance at having .Trashes show up on every device ....

    Linux, great for servers ... but really, that's about it except for the hobbyist with not much need for power apps (e.g. that is, commercial applications generally costing >=$100)

    Firstly, Windows was designed from the ground up as mainly a "single user" OS model, which means that the user running the machine generally has administrative capabilities, or sufficient rights to do things such as install/remove software and drivers, etc. More "modern" operating systems such as the various flavors of Unix and Unix-like systems do not suffer from this, as they were inherently designed to be used by many people, even simultaneously. Because of this, the security is generally more fool-proof on a *nix system than on Windows
    Which is great for my web server, but my home machine is a single user machine. I desire to have no networking excepting on-demand connectivity, e.g. browsing the web, checking e-mail, or FTPing to my server. I don't want to share my data with other computers. If I do, that's why I have an external FW/USB hard drive, it works great for this sort of thing.

    All these years running anti-virus. Have I ever got a virus since Y2k? nope ... none. The primary security feature of any computer is the user's brain. I know not to click attachments ... I figured that out in the 20th century sometime. The only time I did get a virus, it came as a boot sector virus on a floppy disc (guess the date) and was sent to me as a driver update from a Major Company ... that's the only time I really ever saw an anti-virus program alert me about anything non-trivial. (Said the guy at roland tech support "Oh I thought I cleaned all those discs" ... I guess you thought wrong, buddy!)

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