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| Yes...fully maximized. |    | 19 | 90.48% |
| No...But it's almost fully maximized. |    | 1 | 4.76% |
| No...But I can see 3/4 of the screen. |    | 1 | 4.76% |
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April 4th, 2003, 11:39 PM
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How Many Surf w/ Their Windows Maximized?
This is just an important poll. I need to know if people surt with their browser window maximized or opened just to a certain width.
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April 5th, 2003, 11:02 AM
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Where do you need the info for? Without the resolution people use this tells you nothing about the absolute size of the windows (and thus the ideal size of the websites they visit?)
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April 5th, 2003, 02:01 PM
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It's been a long time but I'm pretty sure that with Javascript you can get the values for the resolution, desktop size and current window size along with the position relative to the desktop.
That would be easier than using a poll. 
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April 5th, 2003, 04:00 PM
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I am creating a Web site and it will be really awkward if many people have their windows minimized, then I'd have to change the layout. If most people have their maximized, then only few people will be affected, if there are visitors to my website 
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April 5th, 2003, 05:54 PM
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Why don't you place a poll for that on your website; your visitors may have different viewing habits than we do... Anyways, I'd say most people don't resize their windows... if it starts maximized, i doubt someone would resize it. You could use a button or link on an entry page to open a popup with an absolute size that could not be resized.
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April 5th, 2003, 06:11 PM
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I don't have the site build yet...I have it half planned and I have to finish it by monday... I am not allowed to use JavaScript.
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April 6th, 2003, 08:50 PM
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Well not sure what your web site is targetting, but if your worried about newbie's I wouldn't. I recently taught my mother and father the wonders of an Internet Browser and how things magically appear when you type an address, they both have a small amount of knowledge in computers, writing letters etc and I have yet to see them resize any window.
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April 10th, 2003, 01:01 AM
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That's right, resolution is key. PhillyPin, you need to take screen resolution into consideration as the size of a maximized window is relative to this. Here is an example. I have my resolution at 1600x1200. Let's say I browse with windows 3/4 maximized. That window is about the same size as someone at 800x600 resolution having a maximized window. Here is how you should test your web site. Change your screen resolution to 800x600. (Start->Settings->Control Panel->Display->Settings) Then, view your web site in a maximized window. This is how a lot of people will be viewing your web site. Now, this is debatable, but I think 800x600 is a good test size. You could go as far as 640x480, but that resolution isn't being used so much any more. Windows XP installs with a standard resolution fo 800x600 and you cannot go below that. Most users will just stick to that resolution. As to your original question, I do both ways. I can usually browse web sites without having the window maximized. It's an advantage of having a large resolution. Though, I often browse maximized.
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April 10th, 2003, 12:46 PM
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I am joining this beginner's contest on PHP and contestants' scripts will be tested on 800 x 600 and 1024 x 768. I am not actually creating this as my site. I still have a lot to learn, like CSS and JavaScript. They're relatively easy to learn, but unfortunately no one has all the time in the world.
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April 10th, 2003, 07:38 PM
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This redirects user based on resolution:
<html> <body> <script> function screensize() { if ((screen.width == 800)) window.location.href= "800.htm"; if ((screen.width == 1024)) window.location.href= "1024.htm"; else window.location.href= "800.htm"; } onload=screensize </script> </body> </html>
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April 11th, 2003, 01:11 PM
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... he is not allowed to use javascript  PhillyPino, one thing that I am using from time to time if customers have the same requirements like your contest but still want a layout with many graphics in it is this: build a frameset as a border around it. this way you can have fixed layout in the middle and keep the page centered in the browser. I make the pages about 750x500px then to make sure any browser can display them in 800x600. Not sure if this is allowed in your contest and also you probably wonīt win a layout prize for it If the contest says it will be tested in 800x600 and 1024x768, it would be very unfair to make the browser not full screen. Actually this information would IMHO be intentionally misleading then...
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April 11th, 2003, 03:27 PM
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This thread has been going on for quit a while and there's something I just don't understand. The thing with resolution. I mean, using relative values should do just fine. Create a table with let's say 70-90% width, it can also be centered, shove everything in and that's it! The browser will do the dirty work. Just don't use the PRE tags to avoid having a layout bigger than the window size and everything will be indented and formated nicely inside.
Or is there's something I don't grasp?
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April 11th, 2003, 04:08 PM
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Hi riv, you are 100% right. Theoretically. Two things to that:
- It can be very hard or even impossible to mix relative values and absolute values if you need a certain part of the layout to be an absolute size. Especially to make it cross-browser for that there is soooo many broken html/css implementations out there and html *is* quite restrictive. Itīs a programmerīs task to figure that out, but itīs a designerīs to make it look good. Hard to do if you are only one of these (like me, I canīt do layouting or graphics alone). - Sometimes the customer (or the boss) requests layouts that are more suited for print design. Sometimes you (the programmer) have to make a layout that was designed by a "classical" graphics designer, in my experience it was quite often even from another companyīs designer. No way changing it or it would have been me that failed because the layout looks good and "works" in their brochures. Many pictures, background pictures, fixed width text columns so they can use justified text with hyphenation or text inside or along a shape etc. Some companies had that as part of their CI/CD. No chance to make that with relative values as browsers canīt do the hyphenation automatically yet nor automatic text flow around images. I tried to make some JavaScript code for that, but itīs IMHO total overkill and I quit the idea. You know, like writing the text to a hidden layer until it overflows, then trying to break the last word into syllables and so on...  Doesnīt work without JavaScript anyway which is what I really do put work into.Yes, I admit, I did make bad sites from the technologyīs point of view  Thatīs life AND I HATE IT TOO!
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