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Old April 2nd, 2008, 01:28 AM
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IE8 Beta is out
Quick, call the white coats!

Well guys, the newest edition to Internet Exploder is out. I found out just about an hour ago and was too busy to install it (too lazy). But I'm downloading it now and seeing what is to come of IE. Anyone else going to try it out? Just want to hear what you think.
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Well guys, the newest edition to Internet Exploder is out. I found out just about an hour ago and was too busy to install it (too lazy). But I'm downloading it now and seeing what is to come of IE. Anyone else going to try it out? Just want to hear what you think.


Well... considering I still haven't wanted to torture my computer by installing IE7, I probably won't go with IE8 either... especially a beta.
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ie7 is nothing bad, really. Its actually par, as opposed to ie6 (apart from its 'everything everywhere wants to **** me over' attitude to security). I don't think the beta of ie8 is anything much to look at though, you want a bug free browser. Wait for the official release.
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The beta has been out for at least a couple weeks now. I tried it for a few minutes, and here's what I found:
  • The default 'Standards' mode is unusable right now. I presume between now and the release most major web sites will update to work better and a better mechanism will be implemented for deciding what mode to use for rendering.
  • After going back to 'IE7' mode, I really didn't see much to be excited about. There are a few innovative features, but I'm unlikely to use them because you have to build your web site to specifically take advantage of them, and they'd only work with IE.
  • The new developer tools rock! This is worth upgrading for. IE8 is now as nice or nicer for web dev than firefox, even with the developer tool bar and firebug installed.
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The default 'Standards' mode is unusable right now. I presume between now and the release most major web sites will update to work better and a better mechanism will be implemented for deciding what mode to use for rendering.

Whoa! Hold up. The rendering is not fixed. There will be many changes to it in future beta releases. IE8 beta 1 is rather buggy as many of the new CSS features are not yet complete, so making changes to web pages based on how it renders them is silly.
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I will download and see, no doubt it'll be WORSE than IE7. I think ie7 turned me to firefox after facebook kept crashing on ie7. Why can't microsoft be normal and produce normal software? sigh
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I will download and see, no doubt it'll be WORSE than IE7. I think ie7 turned me to firefox after facebook kept crashing on ie7. Why can't microsoft be normal and produce normal software? sigh
Honestly, I think they spend more time developing to make the average end-user's experience good, and less time building solid, stable products from the ground up. Hence all the hacky add-ons that we've seen over the years.

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And what do you mean by "normal"? I assumed you're referring to security.
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Microsoft make the products really odd, and custom to them and hence isn't that good in both efficiency, security....etc.
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Microsoft make the products really odd, and custom to them and hence isn't that good in both efficiency, security....etc.


I disagree with you here , Microsoft products are quite good and widely used, the most popular OS is windows XP , also said already by B-Con, there application are user friendly
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I agree with Windows XP, I'm thinking more Windows Vista
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I agree with Windows XP, I'm thinking more Windows Vista
Vista is a bit flashier stylish in its UI, but I don't think -- based on my limited experience with it -- that it's much worse, it's just different.

Not that I like Vista, but I don't think its UI is that bad.

I think you're trying to say that nearly they everything they develop or co-develop is proprietary and custom-made, in which case you are correct. The answer to "why" is obvious: It allows them ultimate flexibility while locking in customers.
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I use Firefox, IE and Opera(Hey, doesn't all web developers?). I will definitely download IE8 once the initial problems are sorted out.

When it comes to the flashfactor, Opera is quite flashy, but sadly, has some rendering issues in gmail from time to time.

Glad to hear IE8 comes with a developer toolbar, the one I installed on IE7 isn't bad, but I liked Firefox's one better.

Vista in my opinion is cool, it's indexing function is very nice. Had problems accessing network drives in Dreamweaver though.
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