Man, these people are killing me.......

Am I on like the big dogs spam list or something. This spam mail is funny, gave me a good laugh when I got home today ->

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High skilled Developers only $15!!

There isn't much we don't do. Our programming team can handle C++, Oracle, Java, ASP, Visual Basic, business applications, security and cryptography, database apps, and anything else you want to throw at us. We work on all operating system platforms: .NET, Windows CE, Palm, you name it. We represent a number of well-established companies staffed with hundreds of qualified people with a record of successfully completing hundreds of small and midsize projects and tens of wide-scale projects for Fortune 500 corporations worldwide. Get in touch and we'll provide ample references. If you don't know what any of this technical jargon is but still have a project in mind, we can tell you what platforms and apps you need and design your system from scratch at 15% the price you'd pay most programmers.

And we can handle you back office work as well for just US$8/hour. This is stuff like payroll, data entry, voice transcription, medical transcription, checking invoices, and any other administrative tasks you'd be better off outsourcing to us for big savings.
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Lol, highly skilled Oracle, Java and C++ developers for only $15.00 per hour. Oh man, to funny......

Its little 10 year old kids like this that help drive the market into the ground.... Aught to spank those little bastards.....

>>Its little 10 year old kids like this that help drive the market into the ground
Real professionals in 3rd world countries bring down the market as well. You'd be suprised who you could have hired for $USD15 in Russia ~3 years ago - those people have absolutely mad skills, and you'd expect to pay ~200/hr on contract and ~120k full time in the states for the same guy.

However this has all changed, and nowadays it's hard to find good cheap workers even in poor countries.

Indeed, I know of the times you are talking with russia. I used to game alot with a guy from russia a few years ago and he used to talk about the economy over there, not pretty to listen to. Not sure how it is there now tho....

On a side note, I too think this is spam as none of real pros would ever do this. 'spam=suicide' for any good company/person. I have received similiar letter to my yahoo account, and amazinly enough my email got to them from phpbulder that's why I'm with devshed - sh*t like that doesn't happen.

P.S. 3 years ago is when I last visited Russia, and you're right economy wasn't not in the best shape. Strange thing is that there are money there, and a lot of them, but usual people don't have them. There is no middle class - there are rich and poor. And it's a well known fact that middle class is what all countries are based on.

I getted spammed by my own company at my company email sometimes

I've largely managed to avoid being spammed by keeping two email addresses carefully separated. One is the address I use for companies I don't know yet or trust, the other is for legit purposes like Devshed. Once I see that I'm not getting bombarded by a company, I switch it from the spam-fodder to the legit address and merrily go on my way. Now if I can just get rid of these damned earthlink spams I'll be golden!

Check out that goof ^^^ - he trusts devshed
j/k m8

Hey, you gotta have something to believe in in this world, right?

Here's a very clever way to deal with spam, which a fellow programmer showed me:

(This of course only applies to people who have their own domain or at least a host at a domain (you@yourname.domainname.com)

1. Set up a "wildcard" email on your domain. Using a setting of simply

@yourdomain.com unix_username

in your sendmail configuration will essentially do that, piping all email addresses at the domain to the destination account.

2. Whenever you sign up to a list of any type, do NOT use your primary email account name, which you have given to friends and colleagues. Instead, make up a different email account name for each place you sign up.

3. Use a descriptive name for each "fake" email address. For example, your PHPBuilder signup could be phpbldr@yourdomain.com. This way, you know that any email coming to that address must have something to do with PHPBuilder. Either they are the sender, or they gave away your address somehow.

4. Create filters for each address in your mail client, or with procmail on the server. Now, any time one of these addresses start sending too much spam, you just Deep Six it, and sign up again, with phpbldr2@yourdomain.com

5. Now, you can easily filter your mail, without relying on some complicated, faulty spam filter. And, if you set your filters in the right order, you can still "rescue" emails from certain friends going to addresses that you no longer want to use. Just check for friends first, and move them to a "safe" folder.

interesting!

rycamor... i know people that do that too. its a very handy thing to do. That way you also know if someone has broken their privacy policy. If a site states they dont give out the email address and you get spam on it chances are they were lying.

Heehee.... How to Annoy a Spammer!
(Not that I am advocating this, in any way. Merely pointing out a funny story )

I don't see anything wrong with it, serves him right..

BUT... if he made his millions off of spamming people, someone must be buying the **** he's sending, and THOSE are the people that we must hunt down, flog into submission with large tuna fish, and throw into the East river...

That was just my attempt at an ironic mockery of lawyerese.


Spam has an interesting metric: it only takes an extremely small percentage of people who buy to make it worthwhile, because it is so cheap to send incredible amounts of spam. I believe the average return is something like 1 buyer out of every 200,000, but it is still worthwile because of the volume. Unfortunately, this will be the case until email finally starts costing something.

And... the other group of people who should be flogged with large edible sea creatures is ... sysadmins! The ones who leave open relays on their servers, and never bother to check their logs, or do bandwidth audits, network profiling or whatever you call it. In other words, those people running servers without a clue to the damage they're causing.

By the way, about email costing something: Joel on Software has a great idea in his Nov 14 posting. Mail delivery systems which cost $.01 per email. Not that it would be enforced, but that anyone who wanted to operate in a spam-free environment could subscribe to this service as a whitelist. No spammer could afford $.01 per email, because of the volume they need to generate sales. But, most of us would not suffer in the least to spend $1 for every hundred emails we send out. Of course, just include an authentication system for legitimate double-opt-in maillists, to exempt them from the charges, and everyone is happy.