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    Originally Posted by crownjewel82
    Once again though. All they need for that is census records. Or social security records. They don't need a national ID card to do that. I'd rather spend my energy fighting against those who would misuse that information than the existence of that information. I'd rather fight against listening in on citizens without a warrant. I'd rather fight against the patriot act. I'd rather fight against secret courts and secret prisoners.
    I'm not particularly concerned about Big Brother having information about me. They already know anything they want to. My concern is how that information would be made available to pretty much anybody with the introduction of a national ID.
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    Originally Posted by MasterMinds
    I am 100% FOR NATIONAL ID CARDS - so long as they include a citizen ID number.
    In due time your ID number will come from your IPv6 block that was assigned to you at birth. You'll use IPv6 addresses like you do serial numbers now, along with any networked devices you own.

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    I've lived with a pasport/ID card my whole life (It's mandatory in Belgium) and it never realy posed any day-to-day problems for me. That might change now that I have received a chip-enhanced-ID card, thanks Mr Booosh. (Electronic ID is now required for us to come 'aboard').

    Anyway, one positive thing about ID cards is that soon, instead of traveling with my ID, passport, driver's license and other various identifiers... it will all be stacked in one single card (credit card size) ... that'll look much better in my wallet.
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    Originally Posted by mvantuyl
    I'm not particularly concerned about Big Brother having information about me. They already know anything they want to. My concern is how that information would be made available to pretty much anybody with the introduction of a national ID.
    Credit Union. That's all I'm gonna say.
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    Originally Posted by saintaw
    Anyway, one positive thing about ID cards is that soon, instead of traveling with my ID, passport, driver's license and other various identifiers... it will all be stacked in one single card (credit card size) ... that'll look much better in my wallet.
    Yeah, but when you lose that one card, you're pretty much screwed for everything. At least if they're seperate it wouldn't be that bad to lose one of them.
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    Yea but if they're all in one wallet. If you loose the whole wallet you lost all of them.
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    Originally Posted by crownjewel82
    Yea but if they're all in one wallet. If you loose the whole wallet you lost all of them.
    That's why you don't keep them all together.
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    Ok lets see here.

    Drivers Lisence: in wallet
    Social Security card: in Safe or in wallet (especially if you're doing something that requires a secondary id like getting a job)
    Military ID Card: if you've got one it's in your wallet and it's got your social on it
    Student ID card: wallet
    Credit Cards: wallet
    Bank Cards: wallet

    Hell the only thing we don't put in our wallets is our passport and that's because most of us don't need/have them.
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    Originally Posted by crownjewel82
    Ok lets see here.

    Drivers Lisence: in wallet
    Social Security card: in Safe or in wallet (especially if you're doing something that requires a secondary id like getting a job)
    Military ID Card: if you've got one it's in your wallet and it's got your social on it
    Student ID card: wallet
    Credit Cards: wallet
    Bank Cards: wallet

    Hell the only thing we don't put in our wallets is our passport and that's because most of us don't need/have them.
    Drivers Lisence: in wallet
    Social Security card: not in my wallet unless I explicitly need it
    Military ID Card: none
    Student ID card: not in wallet
    Credit Cards: (none)
    Bank Cards: wallet
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    It's not advised to carry your social security card/number in your wallet. Don't need it and if someone steals or "finds" your wallet that's just one more piece of info they can use to become "you" while maxing out your credit cards.

    Although for me a wallet seems a pretty safe place for anything. The last time I lost a wallet it was forceably removed from me in West Philadelphia, about 18 years ago ...
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    You're just one of those naturally lucky people ... it'd have been dreadful if your NATID card was in your wallet then.

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    Originally Posted by medialint
    Jeez, might as well go to the local police station and confess to random crimes.
    In Britain you can now be arrested on suspicion of committing a crime, any crime, that is, not just serious ones mandating sentences 5 years or longer. therefore you could in theory be jailed on suspicion of littering. no proof is required, just that they "think" you might have or be about to litter.*


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