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    Originally Posted by Axweildr
    Paranoia isn't a dirty word, it's a clinical condition ... how many decent chess players aren't paranoid ... as with all things ... in moderation
    Security is survival of the most paranoid.
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    Originally Posted by medialint
    It's not advised to carry your social security card/number in your wallet. Don't need it and if someone steals or "finds" your wallet that's just one more piece of info they can use to become "you" while maxing out your credit cards.
    one thing I would like to add to my previous note about this:

    Now, instead of 5 telephone numbers (STOPCARD numbers mainly) i will need to remember only one...so, should I loose it. I would have a new citizen ID within 24 hours. I haven't tested this, and hope no to... but it looks like a good thing to me.

    I mean c'mon... in Korea and Japan (I think) you can now make payments directly with your mobile... surely, this points out that we will have to carry less paper over time... a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
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    less paper over time ... didn't Enron use that trick
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    Originally Posted by B-Con
    Security is survival of the most paranoid.
    Did you get that from pmam !?

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    Originally Posted by aitken325i
    Did you get that from **** !?
    That poor guy has got to hate our guts by now

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    • Axweildr agrees : For compassion and not mentioning HIS name w00 ..t J/K ;)
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    Every country should have National ID cards. The US is a Federal government not a state confederacy. Relying on each state for quality identification seems backwards to me.
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    Originally Posted by gimp
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    Agreed.
    Every country should have National ID cards. The US is a Federal government not a state confederacy. Relying on each state for quality identification seems backwards to me.
    I wonder what country you're from and how much American Civics you've had because a state confederacy is pretty damm close to what the US federal government actually is.
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    The US is a Federal government not a state confederacy
    Care to elaborate at length on the differences between a federation and a confederation?

    I don't think, though, that dictionary definitions are going to hack it.

    A war was fought (ostensibly) over the right of a member to secede, yet one state was admitted with the right to divide into up to 5 distinct states, if the state's populace desired to do so. I think a membership drive must have been going on, but no one, once in, gets out.
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    Originally Posted by sizablegrin
    A war was fought (ostensibly) over the right of a member to secede, yet one state was admitted with the right to divide into up to 5 distinct states, if the state's populace desired to do so.
    Yeah, I think before a national ID card, we need to figure out our nation. There are many regions where a splitting a state would be beneficial. NYC is an excellent example, as I'm sure Mr. Grin agrees. Split them off so they stop messing up taxes and legislation for the rest of the state. California could be split a couple ways: Northern Cali wanted to be its own state anyways, Southern Cali could be the State of Baja, and the San Andreas Fault could be another border, just in case that part breaks off ya'know.

    Personally, I'm not opposed to National ID cards, so long as they are provided for us. They could then carry state endorsements for driving privileges, etc.
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    No one remembers the war movies where people had to surrender their 'papers' to the authorities on demand. It's just another ploy designed to reinstill fear on a regular basis.
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    In my country (Malta) we do have id cards, and we have had them for a very long time now! I agree with it and feel it is a way to show who you are to anyone! Also as much as I know it is already ilegal in my country to walk out your home without any means of representation (id card, driving licence, etc). You could get stoped until someone gives them your id. If you loose your id then you have to inform them as soon as you can.

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    Originally Posted by TheJim01
    Yeah, I think before a national ID card, we need to figure out our nation. There are many regions where a splitting a state would be beneficial. NYC is an excellent example, as I'm sure Mr. Grin agrees. Split them off so they stop messing up taxes and legislation for the rest of the state. California could be split a couple ways: Northern Cali wanted to be its own state anyways, Southern Cali could be the State of Baja, and the San Andreas Fault could be another border, just in case that part breaks off ya'know.

    Personally, I'm not opposed to National ID cards, so long as they are provided for us. They could then carry state endorsements for driving privileges, etc.
    Have the FBI already come to get you?

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    I'm not comfortable with the type or amount of information the UK government is planning to store:
    Every place that sells alcohol or cigarettes, every post office, every pharmacy, and every Bank will have an National Identity Register Card Terminal, into which your card can be swiped to check your identity. Each time this happens, a record is made at the NIR of the time and place that the Card was presented. This means for example, that there will be a government record of every time you withdraw more than £99 at your branch of NatWest, who now demand ID for these transactions. Every time you have to prove that you are over 18, your card will be swiped, and a record made at the NIR. Restaurants and off licenses will demand that your card is swiped so that each receipt shows that they sold alcohol to someone over 18, and that this was proved by the access to the NIR, indemnifying them from prosecution.

    Many companies all run very detailed databases of their own. They will be allowed access to the NIR, just as every other business will be. This means that each of these entities will be able to store your unique number in their database, and place all your travel, phone records, driving activities and detailed shopping habits under your unique NIR number. These databases, which can easily fit on a storage device the size of your hand, will be sold to third parties either legally or illegally. It will then be possible for a non-governmental entity to create a detailed dossier of all your activities. Certainly, the government will have clandestine access to all of them, meaning that they will have a complete record of all your movements, from how much and when you withdraw from your bank account to what medications you are taking, down to the level of what sort of bread you eat - all accessible via a single unique number in a central database.
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