Php Bs

I hate the way PHP claims to be a massive language, wrapping up all those UNIX system calls as functions and then sticks them in the function list. Man, we can make system calls in C, Java, PERL, LISP... whatever but you don't see them wrapping 'stat' and documenting it as a function now, do you!?!

I wish they'd stick to the language and stop faking it.

Or maybe I should run out there, throw a wrapper around 'top' or sommat and get my name in as a contributor, eh!

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Christo

First of all, yes you can use system calls from pretty much every language, but then it will make your program/script very platform dependent, whereas php *tries* to have functions that work on most os'. Secondly, I do not recall php dev's saying that php is all that and it is a "a massive language", so I do not know where you get that information from. And finally, that is somewhat of a tradition calling functions by the relative names from *nix enviroment, and you can't blaim them since most developers develop on *nix and are familiar with those names.

Hey CHR15T0, tell me exactly WHAT I am supposed to do with your information.

*toilet flushes*

twas just an observation of something that I have only seen in PHP. I often find myself reading php docs and realising that it's a direct lift from the *nix man pages... I guess the benefit of portability is an important one, though, but I haven't really tried this stuff out on a windoze machine.

Ted Striker, this is the Lounge - a place for casual discussion. I didn't come here to provide you with any information.

christo

My question to you is why shouldn't php document these system calls? We all know that most programming languages can make calls against the os, that isn't even an issue. The php developers made a few of these calls into static functions that are very usefull and made it so that you wouldn't have to use passthru() or exec(), etc...
If you are going to rant about something in php, pick something ligit.

this is all just a big conspiracy to wipe out Windows and all afiliates there of muahahahahahaha, jk i'm being stupid

just by looking around DevShed's PHP section, you can tell there are more PHP people here than anything else. if you look around the internet you will notice that MOST pages are actually PHP.......well the higher end sites anyway such as sites where the clients interact with the server such as ordering something, being part of a community or just posting scripts they have created.

even the book Programming PHP by Rasmus Lerdorf and Kevin Tatroe (an O'Reilly book) says how much PHP has grown in a short time. there is a graph to show it. the 0 point is at 1998 and by November 2001, Netcraft found that out of 36,458,394 domains 7,095,691 of them had PHP enabled.

I assume you used the word we, highlighted above in the context that you are a different developer prefering to use those languages that you mentioned above, thus seperating yourself from US those that prefer PHP.

Your mind is very warped and I believe you are some form of alien being sent to the lounge in an attempt to discredit PHP based on delusional statements otherwise known as propaganda fed to you by those miscreants you call your leaders. Go away!!! Pfwif

On a more serious note, everyone has preferences, everyone prefers a specific language to do a specific task, as long as you as a developer have the knowledge to choose the correct language for a job it doesn't matter how the code labels it's functions as long as they can perform their required task effectively and efficiently.

If you are that bothered about it, why not proove your knowledge and skills by joining the PHP development team and convince them to use another naming system.