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C/C++ 14 28.00%
Fortran 0 0%
Perl 5 10.00%
PHP 19 38.00%
XML/XSL 0 0%
VB/ASP 3 6.00%
Java 4 8.00%
Python 3 6.00%
SQL-related 0 0%
Other 2 4.00%
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Old July 7th, 2003, 11:01 PM
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VB/ASP all the way.

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Thanks rycamor for your posting on LISP.

I stumbled across it a few times in the 90's - didn't really capture me. But then, this morning, I read your post at work and decided to leave the phone off the hook for half an hour while I read the article by Paul Graham (needed to download GhostScript for my pathetic Win2K machine...)

I enjoied it very much. My first impressions on LISP is that it's a short-hand language. I know that's a pretty crude description, but it's list structure and the logic of it lends itself so well to (it's kind of like a simplified regular expression, in a very loose sense). Garbage Collection in the 1960's! - don't know why I was so surprised about that, but it makes sense to collect your own garbage in the days when 1k or RAM cost $1k (exaggerataion, but I bet it's not far off)

LISP variables kind-of (KIND-OF!!!!) remind me of PERL and scalar variables, you know, typed values accessed through pointers. One could have called them 'Vector' variables considering the separation between type and allocation.

I have to say, I'm too used to my procedural/OOP ways to consider LISP. But thank you for that posting, it made an otherwise slow morning turn into an interesting day!

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I just love my Perl too much to vote for anything else. I know that C++ is tremendously powerful but I still hate having to program in it, though that could have something to do with the guy who taught it to me. I do have a soft spot for Java though.
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Old July 8th, 2003, 05:58 AM
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ishnid,

I hear you man... I learnt PERL in about four days of casual reading (SAMS, PERL in 21 Days series). I love PERL, and without getting into a PHP/PERL war over this, I think it's safe to say that PERL IS BETTER THAN PHP.

(here we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)



C++ was a pain for me, I really had to lock myself away for a few weeks to get my head around OOP it's implementation in MFC. MFC, by the way, is a total disaster zone for me... It really has taken a few years for me to get into the stride of C++ on Windows. That's partially because given the choice beween doing something in VC++ and VB, I usually flake out and go for VB. Quick and dirty, that's my style! If it turns out to be really useful, someone else can re-write the C++ version!

But yes, nothing like the smell of PERL in the morning!


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LISP -> Let's Insert Some Patentheses

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Old July 8th, 2003, 06:56 AM
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ROTFLMAO! LOLOLOLOL!!!!

Big up to my bro in Swindon!

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I'm not all that concerned with PHP, it's far easier for web development (please tell me it has an HTML::Temple - like module?) in most cases. So long as we have more Perl votes than Python votes, I'll be content. I've never touched Python, but back at school, the entire faculty seems to have an eerie hatred toward Perl and an unhealthy infatuation with Python. I'm not sure I wanted to understand it, but I've spitefully carried the reverse mentality with me.

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ishnid,

I hear you man... I learnt PERL in about four days of casual reading (SAMS, PERL in 21 Days series). I love PERL, and without getting into a PHP/PERL war over this, I think it's safe to say that PERL IS BETTER THAN PHP.

(here we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)



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Sure, Perl is better than PHP - unless, of course, you want to be able to read your code the next day.
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Arrow yes, that's right.

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You're right. PHP is a simple-language for simple-minded people. [/flameshield]

C/C++ and PHP seem to be at the top. I wonder what the average user age is on DevShed - it seems to me that younger people use PHP because it came into fashion relatively recently. Most PERL mongers are either older, or young and elite (like me!)

Not that I'm being ageist, of course.

How old are you drgroove? Which instrument(s) do you play? And finally, if you could choose between SevenOfNine and Kes, which one would you go for?

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Re: yes, that's right.

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You're right. PHP is a simple-language for simple-minded people. [/flameshield]

C/C++ and PHP seem to be at the top. I wonder what the average user age is on DevShed - it seems to me that younger people use PHP because it came into fashion relatively recently. Most PERL mongers are either older, or young and elite (like me!)

Not that I'm being ageist, of course.

How old are you drgroove? Which instrument(s) do you play? And finally, if you could choose between SevenOfNine and Kes, which one would you go for?


LMAO. Nice one.

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Well...

I had to say Java, because its what I know best and its the only language I have ever been paid to write.

Languages that I am trying to become proficient in (when I am not fried) are Perl, C/C++, and SQL-related.

I'm currently teaching myself PL/SQL for Oracle 9i for a current project.

Cheers

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Thumbs up kewl

hehehe - glad you saw the humour in that one..... I keep getting flack for posting things that keep getting mis-interpreted.

BTW, I just got a new Ibanez JEM (EV777)!!!

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i've only really tried c++, java, php and asp so far ....

but php gets my vote - easily!

c++ gets too messy
java is too slow
and don't get me started on asp!

php is easy to code in and great for the web which is where i'm at

yes php rules but i'm planning on visiting the programming republic of perl some day soon

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