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    Unless I or someone I like is personally involved in the sport and league in question, I couldn't care less. Whoever wins the superbowl wins; the only difference will be who gets better merchandising for the next year.

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    Generally the answer is 'no'. I long since truly cared what happened to the football team I used to support (West Ham .. yay, up the iron!) but still like them to do well - I suppose a bit like you'd like a far, far, far distant cousin 20 times removed who you once met at a wedding and had a nice chat with over a flute of champagne to do well for themselves.
    As for national sports ... too much hype involved. Too much money. Too many over-paid prima donnas (mainly in football). Too much exposure in 'the news' of distant relations of players, who may once have thought about doing something naughty.
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    Although watching on TV will never replace actual participation, either playing or watching at the event itself, I really do take an interest in sports I have played or events that my nation is being represented in.

    Nothing else invokes more passion than say watching USA beat the British 1-1 at this world cup in South America in their greatest victory since Bunker Hill :-)

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    Scottish Police have spent the entire weekend dealing with flash floods after 5 million people simultaneously pished themselves after USA scored!

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    I watch sports for the sport itself, I consider the game worth watching on its own. This pisses my wife off to no end because I'll root simply for "good plays" instead of a particular team.

    Except the Yankees, I've loved the Yankees since I was 4.

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    I do, but only in the matches I play myself - like bowling with the guys from work...

    Alright, maybe the olympics and world cup finals too - because it actually has some significance unlike "local team A vs local team N - round 921".

    I especially like the world cup finals because that means the whole crap is over soon. There's only one thing worse than drunken assholes. That is if they also implement the "SportsFan" Interface...
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    I follow a few teams and a few sports. I like baseball, and root for the local team. I have always hated the Yankees. Here in the DC area, you have to follow the Redskins, so I have, but I hate the owner and dislike the way they play the game.

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    Both I do care and I don't care depending on the sport, the time of year and the teams involved.

    I don't care who wins the world cup.
    I did care who won the Stanley Cup but only because the Flyers were contenders.
    I do care who wins all 162 Oakland A's games because, well, I'm a pretty avid fan.
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    What is the positive side of caring? I'll admit that I cared greatly when I was coaching my son in soccer, and we won the Plano City Championship. That's a highly personal involvement, like implementing the top solution for a company-saving contract.

    Where does real caring come in if you have no personal involvement? Can vicarious feelings be that important? Why?

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    Vicarious winning, plus being a part of the "winning side." For the same reason people care that their country wins a war in a far-off land. By allying yourself with the group that eventually became "the winners," you chose correctly and are, yourself, a winner.

    Plus, rooting for someone makes the game more exciting.
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    I'd say fans do have a personal involvement though. The time they spend watching the game, attending games and the money they invest in game tickets, hats, t-shirts, etc.

    When it comes to baseball and the A's and myself: I wasn't much into baseball as a kid. I tried to play baseball but I couldn't hit, catch, throw or pitch. Seeing as pinch runners weren't really that much of a commodity I was a bit discouraged and turned to non-team sports such as track, cross country running and skiing. Then sometime after moving to California I had some friends that were into the A's. I went to a few games and I found it more enjoyable than I remembered the game being. Then I found myself single for a while so I started going to ball games to get out of the house. I subscribed to a sabremetric site, and started reading all about my team. I knew who the prospects were, who we were looking to trade for and away, our team strengths and weaknesses and at this point I'd say I became very personally involved. Kids like Nick Swisher were "my boy" when they came up. I loved his personality and the way he played the game. A great guy, a great player. Then I was sad when we traded him to the White Sox but I was happy for him to be on that team, it seemed a good fit. But then he was traded to the Yankees! Oh noes! My boy Nickie a Yankee! Say it ain't so ...

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    I've got to second medialint's opinion here -- I'm not nearly as dedicated a fan; I like baseball and I like both the A's and the Giants (A's more than Giants -- lower budget, better players)... but it was a long time coming, and mostly prompted by friends' interest and attending a few games. My Dad wasn't a sports fan, and if anything I was jealous of the kids who knew all the teams and players, traded baseball cards, and could play baseball or were on teams when I was a kid (I've always been an okay batter, but hated standing in the field and 'threw like a girl' in my pre-adolescence). It took until my mid 20s to start enjoying baseball as I started watching games with friends who knew all the players, stats, and standings and such, as well as playing a bit recreationally.

    I don't particularly care about sporting event outcomes, but I will certainly root for the locals when a game's on, and will even turn on the tv for baseball occasionally in the evening. I like seeing the same players and watching the plays... I believe this all to be tied to the fact that I started going to the batting cages and playing catch with adult friends several summers ago, bought an outfielder's mitt and everything -- there's definitely a vicarious connection in watching familiar players play through familiar plays (hell, there's only so many ways it can work out in baseball).

    the vicarious connection really comes through when you know the game and the players; kind of feels like 'you're on the team'; you feel comfortable berating or touting players for their plays, since you know both how the play works and how the player normally handles the situation. When they win, you win... When they lose, you blame their bullpen, or base coaches, or players, or the umpire...

    There's definitely some geographic loyalty; you're most likely to be able to identify with others when you're talking about local teams. I don't care at all about the World Cup, and in fact laugh that the US can even hold a candle to other international teams -- and since (most) other sports for us Americans are all intranational, my national pride tends not to be a factor. Other than laughing at my Giants fan friends when the A's are winning or vice versa, game outcomes don't really affect me.

    For the record, for professional sports, I don't like American football, basketball (love playing it though), hockey, tennis, golf, or really any other sport. I like baseball, and pay attention to the local teams' standings, but you'll never catch me getting really enthusiastic one way or the other about sports scores... although I've been kind of pissed that the Giants swept the A's in SF... in a disconnected, abstract kind of way...

    heh. rant much?
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    By allying yourself with the group that eventually became "the winners," you chose correctly and are, yourself, a winner.
    Worthwhile by proxy. I just can't buy that.
    rooting for someone makes the game more exciting.
    I don't buy that. Rooting for excellence makes the game more exciting. (See ManiacDan's opinion.)
    I'd say fans do have a personal involvement though. The time they spend watching the game, attending games and the money they invest in game tickets, hats, t-shirts, etc.
    Yep, my point. Is that worthwhile, or is that just subpar mental grunge used to bail out on the realities of life?

    Let me make myself a little more unpopular (aka sizablegrin's truths). BP's sins, abetteted by a corrupt government, are truly horrible. Despite that truth, most of the people yelling the loudest, while they may care, are just yelling because it's today's thang to do. If (name a popular female celebrity) exposed a pubic hair tomorrow, they'd be off and running for a new cause (show more, show less, pick one).
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    Originally Posted by DaWei_M
    What is the positive side of caring? I'll admit that I cared greatly when I was coaching my son in soccer, and we won the Plano City Championship. That's a highly personal involvement, like implementing the top solution for a company-saving contract.

    Where does real caring come in if you have no personal involvement? Can vicarious feelings be that important? Why?

    Just curious.
    That's really what it comes down to for me. My philosophy is to be careful about the things I choose to care about, since generally nothing good comes from investing emotionally in extraneous crap. IMHO, it's stupid to choose to care about something that I can't influence and whose outcome has no tangible value. I tried to be a fan for a while, but it just didn't work out, for the above reason. (It would obviously be completely different if I had coached a particular team, or to a smaller extent, even if I just knew somebody on a team.)

    That said, it can still be fun to watch sports. I just don't care about the outcomes. (Well, in an ideal world. Being human, I can't help caring a little bit occasionally.) The USA/Canada gold-medal hockey game was good fun, for example.
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