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Old September 12th, 2003, 07:57 AM
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System Tray = Notification Area

I thought you guys may enjoy this:

Why do some people call the taskbar the "tray"?
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Old September 12th, 2003, 03:56 PM
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I think this guy woke up in the morning, had a big ol' bowl of Pedantic Flakes[TM], and sat down to write this blog.
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Someone must have have crapped in those Pedantic Flakes[TM] before he sat down to them. Or, maybe someone should crap in those flakes! Convince him to stop eating them.

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Someone must have have crapped in those Pedantic Flakes[TM] before he sat down to them. Or, maybe someone should crap in those flakes! Convince him to stop eating them.


Yeah... guess his box didn't have the free toy that day.

Or [gulp] - maybe it did have the free toy.

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Someone must have have crapped in those Pedantic Flakes[TM] before he sat down to them. Or, maybe someone should crap in those flakes! Convince him to stop eating them.

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You know, that's exactly why I call it, and still will call it, the system
tray. Because of systray.exe

People daily murder the english language by making up subtle differences: example

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You know, that's exactly why I call it, and still will call it, the system
tray. Because of systray.exe
This is the part I thought people would find interesting. I have to admit that I thought it was called the system tray for this same reason. Often when Win98 or WinME started to hang up my computer (luckily this no longer happens with WinXP), I would start shutting down applications one at a time in hopes of regaining control, and when systray.exe went, so did the icons in the 'system tray'.

Btw, raklet and drgroove, are you guys aware that Raymond Chen was a GUI programmer for Microsoft Windows?

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I didn't know that implicitly but I could gather from his rant that he probably worked for M$ in some capacity.

I still call it the system tray even though systray.exe doesn't exist on XP. Its ubiquitous. When I tell someone to go to their system tray, they know what I mean.

People would be confused if I told them to look in the "Taskbar Notification Area". Besides, who the hell wants to say "Taskbar Notification Area"? That is an eleven syllable word.

Apparently M$ has never heard the axiom "If its not one or two syllables, people wont use it". Or something like that. Don't remember the quote exactly. Systray suits me fine.

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"Notification Area"? Is that why those damn balloons pop up every few minutes to helpfully "notify" me about things I either already knew or explicitly just did? Errrghh..... can I blame this guy for that kind of stupid?

// me switches to Linux... oh wait.. that's right... I gave away my PSU to a friend then bought a faulty one... my Linux box is out of commisions... ()$#&#@!!!!

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I didn't know that implicitly but I could gather from his rant that he probably worked for M$ in some capacity.

I still call it the system tray even though systray.exe doesn't exist on XP. Its ubiquitous. When I tell someone to go to their system tray, they know what I mean.

People would be confused if I told them to look in the "Taskbar Notification Area". Besides, who the hell wants to say "Taskbar Notification Area"? That is an eleven syllable word.

Apparently M$ has never heard the axiom "If its not one or two syllables, people wont use it". Or something like that. Don't remember the quote exactly. Systray suits me fine.


Its 10 syllables. Count 'em. Task Bar Not i fi ca tion Ar E A.

MMMM - gotta love them Pedantic Flakes[TM]

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Its 10 syllables. Count 'em. Task Bar Not i fi ca tion Ar E A.


If you say the 'k' in taskbar hard enough it sounds like a syllable.

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Apparently M$ has never heard the axiom "If its not one or two syllables, people wont use it". Or something like that. Don't remember the quote exactly. Systray suits me fine.
Actually, yes, they have heard of it. Windows was going to be called Interface Manager. Imagine that. Someone smart (Rowland Hanson) convinced them to change the name. I think this is a perfect analogy for why System Tray is a much better term than Notification Area. To repeat myself from some other post, one is needlessly technical, and the other is down to Earth. One has all kinds of syllables, the other has only 2 or 3. In the end, for whatever reason, one is much more aesthetically pleasing.

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