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Old June 18th, 2009, 05:18 PM
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yeah, ANY machine, no matter how old, should be able to keep up with the fastest typers.


When I was running windows 3.1, on a 386 IIRC, I had a similiar problem with typing.....







Most companiies live under the strict rule "all we need is something that barely works". It's a fact of life, and I wouldn't let it worry you.

If they choose to give you inadequate equipment, then they should expect inadequate results. The key is just to make sure you atleast put your opinion in there, so that when all hell breaks lose, software doesn't get done in time, servers go become overwhelmed etc.. you get to look good with the "toldya so story". (Don't actually say "toldya so")

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When I was running windows 3.1, on a 386 IIRC, I had a similiar problem with typing.....
I'm calling you a liar and a faker. Inability to type I will go with.
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Most companiies live under the strict rule "all we need is something that barely works". It's a fact of life, and I wouldn't let it worry you.


And also "it's worked for the last decade so why are you complaining now?"

Yeah this happens everywhere. There's a lot of people where I work with 10 year old Pentium 3's. There's just certain companies who don't want to invest anything to anything.
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There's a lot of people where I work with 10 year old Pentium 3's.
To write code, why do you need anything more? If you want to play video games or illegally download other people's IP, bring your own laptop to work. Visual Studio, Qt, and Eclipse work just fine on a P3.
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I've never had a machine with 4 gig of RAM in my life. The curve tends to flatten out around 1-2 gig.

On the other hand, I've never had a machine with Vista on it.

Then, on the other hand (what am I up to? about three hands?), I can put a program on your machine that will bring it to its knees no matter how much RAM you have.

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I've never had a machine with 4 gig of RAM in my life. The curve tends to flatten out around 1-2 gig.

On the other hand, I've never had a machine with Vista on it.

Then, on the other hand (what am I up to? about three hands?), I can put a program on your machine that will bring it to its knees no matter how much RAM you have.


I am actually using 8gb of RAM in my desktop machine at home - it's cheap enough. I have triple boot Ubuntu / Vista / OSX - It really does make a difference to them all especially Vitsa it works like a dream and is very very quick. I only actually use it for iTunes to sync and update my iPhone, I use Ubuntu for everything else. Except the iPhone App SDK which is why I spent a couple of weeks hacking a Leopard disc onto my PC. Now I can't be bothered to write the apps I had ideas for.

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Although I am not using Vista myself I have to say that I was very impressed by it's SuperFetch capabilities. Of course it does require at least 4GB of RAM to perform like it is supposed to but once it is on it really makes things fly.

I myself am still using WindowsXP because it actually has everything I need for now and Fedora is my weapon of choice when it comes to Linux. I usually do all my development work on Fedora and when its ready for testing I simply test it on one of my CentOS driven servers. Oh yeas...I never had a computer with more than 1,5GB of memory and I must say that for me its still enough to do everything I need to. Perhaps it's because the first thing I do when I install an operating system is to switch off anything that could affect its performance (visual themes, unnecessary services, use GNOME instead of KDE etc.)

And when I think of times when I used Amiga with 512KB of RAM to compile my C sources with AztecC compiler which required floppy disks to store temporary results on them
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open taskmanager, and list processes by CPU, and see what the major culprits are
start->run->winver will let you know how much RAM is available to the OS

Temporary Internet Files CAN actually be a culprit if it's set up on a bog standard MFT on the disk, because the disk is set up to use a specific maximum number of files

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Yes as long as said P3 machine can take about 4gb of RAM...


a PIII is going to handle 99% of what and standard office drone is going to need to do, even one with only half a gig. Now if you go and install the latest and greatest of every version of the software they use, of course you are going to have problems, cause we as programmers are lazy and don't want to bother writing really tight code.

just cause a machine gets old doesn't mean it can't run the software it came with at the same speed as it was new. computers are not like my knees; they don't slowly wear out.
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Something mechanical wears out, like a hard drive or a fan. Something hot burns out, like a power supply or poorly cooled components. The failures tend to be catastrophic and hardly ever subtle.

They rarely manifest themselves as decreased processing speed; when they do it's usually because you're thrashing your disk.

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