Development Software
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me
Go Back   Dev Shed ForumsWeb Site ManagementDevelopment Software

Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread Dev Shed Forums Sponsor:
Stay one step ahead of the competition. Evaluate and give feedback on some of the hottest web development tools on the market today. Make your opinion heard! Click Here
  #1  
Old August 3rd, 2005, 11:53 AM
ThreeD ThreeD is offline
Contributing User
Dev Shed Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Online
Posts: 54 ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 15 h 59 m 16 sec
Reputation Power: 6
CMS - the way to go?

What is your take on a CMS vs handcoding an entire website on your own? I am thinking in the lines of a huge php site running from a MySQL database. If you have any ideas or comments on CMS systems, positive and negative experiences I'd be very happy

I've looked at Typo3 and Mambo so far..I may end up not using any of them, and handcode the entire page myself. But if you have any good suggestion for a reliable and stable CMS system, I'll glad listen to the recommedations.

thanks in advance

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old August 4th, 2005, 02:03 AM
KenPed's Avatar
KenPed KenPed is offline
Looking for something to do
Dev Shed Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 708 KenPed User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)KenPed User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)KenPed User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)KenPed User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 4 Days 4 h 4 sec
Reputation Power: 6
If you have special requirements then progg it yourself, but if you are going to go mainstream concentrate on the design to be outstanding... (you would do that anyways wouldnt you?? :-)). Doing a complete complex CMS is a TASK. But then again going into a CMS to change certain task is sometimes more timeconsuming then making it from scratch.

So there you have it,, Even I am confused :-),, But you didnt really let us in on what kind of cms you are talking about. Guess we are talking portal size here ??? If so try to get on of the big portal CMS to work for ya and just consentrate on making your own desing for that (dont use templates they are overused, make your own).
__________________
Kenped

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old August 4th, 2005, 04:55 AM
ThreeD ThreeD is offline
Contributing User
Dev Shed Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Online
Posts: 54 ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 15 h 59 m 16 sec
Reputation Power: 6
thanks for the feeback KenPed

I am on the verge of starting a HUGE project, the backbone of the website will be a MySQL database, in combo with php / apache. The website will be continuously updated - several times daily, it will hold loads of articles and video clips in addition to that.

The front page will be displaying the newest articles added under several different categories, it will have the 10 latest forum threads, polls and other information.

I know ebay, mtv and amazon and other large company websites run CMS's as well, what I want to know is what kind they are running. Do they use fully customized ones programmed from scratch?

If I decide to go for a CMS, I would definately make my own CMS template, there is no way I'd use a default one. Like you said, they are overused I was thinking about a big portal CMS like mambo or TYPO3, but I have to know that is matches my requiresments and needs. The worst thing that could happen is that I find out in a couple of months that the CMS doesn't fulfill all my needs.

thanks again for the feedback

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old August 4th, 2005, 06:54 AM
MuffinMan MuffinMan is offline
Source of Wisdom
Dev Shed Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Germany, Munich Southside
Posts: 156 MuffinMan User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)MuffinMan User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)MuffinMan User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)MuffinMan User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)MuffinMan User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Days 10 h 8 m 48 sec
Reputation Power: 12
Send a message via ICQ to MuffinMan Send a message via AIM to MuffinMan
I'm not such a big fan of mambo as it seems to me to be an alpha or beta but no status to use it for professional stuff - couldn't install typo3 yet because of a ram limit but tried several others - what looks quite good to me atm is e107 but I don't know how well / fast it can handle loads of users

I'd definitely discourage the use of phpnuke though

there are some pages with overviews of popular cms systems together with usable frontend/backend demo's, I'd suggest to have a look at them. sounds like you don't need overly special stuff and things like newest posts or newstickers and stuff are already very common I'd say so I wouldn't bother making an own one

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old August 4th, 2005, 12:57 PM
duniyadnd duniyadnd is offline
Contributing User
Dev Shed Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 30 duniyadnd User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 4 h 44 m 4 sec
Reputation Power: 0
cmsmatrix.org is a place where you can compare different cms'.

To be honest, you're not going to find a CMS an "amazon, ebay etc." use, because, it's just not available around the net.

Their business is associated predominantly on the net, and they would have customised tools, or used pre-made tools customised to their fitting, simply because they can afford to make those customisations.

In the end, for using a CMS, it all depends on what you want for your site, and what you need. If you need something simple like a news blog, then a blogger is all you need.

Mambo works for some people, but some people integrate it with other applications, it just depends on your fit and I've heard nothing but great things about typo3.

Maybe the best thing to do is to write down a spec of your site and see what all is needed, and how long it might take you to code that section including the backend so it's easy to update information. Compare that information to downloading a CMS and plugging in information and customising it to suit your needs. If the time saved is well worth it and you feel you can take your time to work on your own custom CMS, then go for it, otherwise, it just might be worthwhile at the end.

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old August 5th, 2005, 11:44 AM
jabba_29's Avatar
jabba_29 jabba_29 is offline
Back in HEL
Dev Shed God 8th Plane (8500 - 8999 posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Finland
Posts: 8,571 jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)jabba_29 User rank is General 8th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)  Folding Points: 57777 Folding Title: Beginner FolderFolding Points: 57777 Folding Title: Beginner FolderFolding Points: 57777 Folding Title: Beginner Folder
Time spent in forums: 3 Months 3 Weeks 2 Days 9 h 41 m 40 sec
Reputation Power: 1494
Send a message via ICQ to jabba_29 Send a message via AIM to jabba_29 Send a message via MSN to jabba_29 Send a message via Yahoo to jabba_29 Send a message via Google Talk to jabba_29 Send a message via Skype to jabba_29
Facebook
Another site you can test before you download: opensourcecms. It really depends on your needs. There are plenty of CMS out there, and as the saying goes - "why re-invent the wheel?" I agree with duniyadnd on the whole.

Good luck,
__________________
Cheers,

Jamie


# skiFFie | Home of the 'accessibility module' for Drupal
# Jamie Burns [me] Accessibility Module [drupal]
# guidelines | search | wap resources | not getting help | fold to cure

# Any form of employment is strictly prohibited ......


__________________

Let the might of your compassion arise to bring a quick end
to the flowing stream of the blood and tears .....
Please hear my anguished words of truth.

__________________

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old August 5th, 2005, 04:22 PM
ThreeD ThreeD is offline
Contributing User
Dev Shed Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Online
Posts: 54 ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 15 h 59 m 16 sec
Reputation Power: 6
thanks for the great feedback guys I'm currently going through mambo and typo3, checking them out to see if they fit my needs. I definately think a modded and fully customized CMS is the way to go for me and my current project. I'll let you all know how it goes..

thanks again for the great feedback!

PS - tried to hand you guys some rep points, but I guess my post count is too low

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old August 5th, 2005, 04:28 PM
ThreeD ThreeD is offline
Contributing User
Dev Shed Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Online
Posts: 54 ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)ThreeD User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 15 h 59 m 16 sec
Reputation Power: 6
btw, thanks for the great url jabba Will be doing some research on that site!

Reply With Quote
Reply

Viewing: Dev Shed ForumsWeb Site ManagementDevelopment Software > CMS - the way to go?


Thread Tools  Search this Thread 
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes  Rate This Thread 
Rate This Thread:


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
View Your Warnings | New Posts | Latest News | Latest Threads | Shoutbox
Forum Jump

 Free IT White Papers!
 
Accelerating Trading Partner Performance
One in five. That's how many partner transactions have at least one error. That is an amazing statistic, particularly given the extraordinary leaps in innovation across the global supply chain during the past two decades. Download this white paper to learn more.

 
Competing on Analytics
This Tech Analysis is designed to help identify characteristics shared by analytics competitors, and includes information about 32 organizations that have made a commitment to quantitative, fact-based analysis.

 
Cost Effective Scaling with Virtualization and Coyote Point Systems
An overview of the industry trend toward virtualization, how server consolidation has increased the importance of application uptime and the steps being taken to integrate load balancing technology with virtualized servers.

 
Five Checkpoints to Implementing IP Telephony
Implementation planning for IP PBX software and IP telephony has become vital as businesses replace discontinued legacy PBX phone systems. This informative whitepaper outlines five "checkpoints" for any implementation plan that will help make IP communications a successful proposition.

 
Hosted Email Security: Staying Ahead of New Threats
In the last two years, email has become a fierce battleground between the nefarious forces of spam and malware, and the heroes of messaging protection. The spam volumes increased alarmingly every month, bringing clever new forms of phishing and virus propagation attacks.

 

Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
  
 





© 2003-2008 by Developer Shed. All rights reserved. DS Cluster 1 hosted by Hostway