November 20th, 2001, 12:20 PM
Onslaught - I'll give that one a go - I'm torn between UE and Editplus really, although I must admit I do like the 'solid' feel of ultraedit, somehow feels less flimsy than editplus. Mmm - maybe slickedit's the one to tempt me away from both of em (plus if they do a linux ver that's a bonus)
Or... maybe I should just get vi for win32 - I still have some hair left to tear out yet hehe
November 20th, 2001, 12:38 PM
vi? thank yer lucky stars it's not IDD!
yeah, i always thought vi was "the very center of EviL", but then at work I had to use this line-editor called "IDD Online" for working with "ADS/O" and IDMS databases (COBOL/mainframe insanity).
If you ever think anything available for Winblows or *nix is bad, just look at some of the crap they unload on mainframe programmers! I'm surprised IBM or Computer Associates haven't yet come up with an editor that randomly remaps your keyboard and doesn't display the keystrokes, then save everything in octal-based Kanji characters. If they ever do, some big-whig A-hole where I work will pay millions to license it!
(sorry for venting)
November 20th, 2001, 12:48 PM
I remember using that line editor once that vi was built on, can't remember the name of it now, 'ed' is it? That was pretty funky in a 'mmm, so what now... ah, coffee break' kind of way.
November 20th, 2001, 01:25 PM
Honestly, the only reason that I know about it, is that when I started at the company I am currently at, most of the projects that I was on dealt primarily on Linux (thankfully), and I researched for a reliable editor for use over an x-server. The programmer that I am teamed with uses it and swung me over to it because it works on multiple os's so you don't have to keep learning new editors to do the same time. Plus the fact that you can have multiple projects and multiple buffers for each projects just kind of takes the cake with me.
November 21st, 2001, 05:22 AM
November 22nd, 2001, 05:26 AM
Ehm, has anyone of you ever edited with TECO?
From what I've heard about it, it's about the worst editor possible.
Some people, when confronted with a problem, think “I know, I'll use regular expressions.” Now they have two problems. - Jamie Zawinski, in comp.lang.emacs
November 23rd, 2001, 06:39 AM
Re: color settings
It doesn't have php colouring? mine does, just click here and get the php4 wordfile, or go here and see what you want, then find your own wordfile on the installed copy of ultraedit, go to the bottom of the file and paste the php4 wordfile contents into it. then run ultraedit, click view/view as (highlighting filetype)/php
and you will be good to go
January 27th, 2002, 09:34 AM
Wow.. all these editors.. didn't see HomeSite mentioned, but did see someone using BBEdit..
guess it really shows the number of available text based IDE's floating around out there..
it all comes down to what you're comfortable with, what gives you the tools you want..
I've been using HomeSite from day 1.. still do.. has everything I need and some things I don't.. but what it doesn't have that I need.. I can generally add myself...
-- clearly, I use HomeSite, and have recently tried a hand-full of other apps, like PHPCoder, Zend Studio, and Maguma Studio.
I think the Zend Studio 2.0 is pretty nicely done.. but I'm so used to HomeSite.. that I find myself in "old faithful"...
PHPCoder, and Maguma Studio (one-in-the same now)..
PHPCoder was stable.. but Maguma liked to crash a lot.. (win2k pro).
It's all in what makes you feel comfortable, is stable, and gives you the tools you want/need.
-- While on the subject of editors, I've noticed over the last few years a similarity in some "third party authored scripts".. the use of a line like:
/* $Id: config.inc.php,v 1.62 2001/12/23 23:05:23 lem9 Exp $ */
found in the comments (generally the first few lines) - the above came from PHPMyAdmin's config file.
Now, I can clearly tell what it is..but wondering if it's an application created marker, or if it's something that all these guys
are manually putting into the file(s).. frankly, I'd come closer to believing it's a software written tag from some IDE..
anyone know what app does this? (if it's an app)
January 27th, 2002, 02:15 PM
It is a cvs version control marker. It is placed in the program's code by the cvs system to help keep track of what the version is and the filename. i.e.
filename id = config.inc.php
version = 1.62
date = 2001/12/23
January 27th, 2002, 09:15 PM
onslaught, thanks for the reply.. I was reasonably sure what the marker information contained.
Just no idea where it was coming from.. and with so many different apps with a similar marker.. I knew it had to be an app of some kind.
where does one come into a system like that? I seem to have a bad habbit of "forgetting" to update my source headers.. sometimes I do really well, but other times.. ouch.. and it's always those times when I forget.. that hurt.
January 28th, 2002, 07:40 AM
There is plenty of information on the cvs home site:
You can also search google and come up with multiple links.
I know there is also a version for windoze that can be found at:
January 28th, 2002, 08:21 AM
January 28th, 2002, 09:09 AM
January 28th, 2002, 10:05 AM
Humm.. what do I get.. HomeSite 5
multi-paned active explorer window
source color coding
extensisble development environment
extended find/replace - open and non-open document(s)
multi-view - (split pane of working document)
need I go on
I say one should use what works for them.. some like more, while some like less.. IMO it doesn't matter what you code in, it's the end product that really matters.
January 28th, 2002, 06:00 PM
I use PHPed now, seems pretty good, got it off download.com