DNS and Domain Registration

All

I have a windows 2000 server running Apache,Mysql,DNS,Mail Server.

I would like to register a domain name to allow access from the internet to my web server but i am unsure as to whether or not my registraer will assign me an ip address to use on my server. If this is the case does the registraer resolve the domain name to ip or will i have to resolve this with my DNS server.


Thanks In Advance

Iancr,

What you'll first need to do is set your computer up as a nameserver, if it's not already. If it's not and you need help setting one up let me know. Then you'll need to register your domain through a registrar that allows you to register a nameserver. The one I use is www.nameroute.com - they're $15 - that's a lot, but it's the only one I know of that lets you register them.

When you go to register your name through nameroute, register the name that fits your nameserver address. For example:

My two nameservers are: server1.kerbeos.com & server2.kerbeos.com
The domain i bought was: kerbeos.com

Then after you buy your domain, nameroute will allow you to add Name-Based nameservers asking for both the nameserver AND its IP. That's where you put your IP address. After that, then add that nameserver to the site's own nameservers.

If that confused you, buy your domain through nameroute.com and I'll help you from there Hope it helped

~Trellis

P.S.- by default nameroute provides you with free hosting which you can't leave out, however as soon as you change the domain's nameservers to yours it'll go away. Don't worry, you won't be charged for the hosting

P.S.S.- Registrars DO NOT assign IP addresses... only ISPs can. As I said above, in order to register a nameserver you need a registrar (like nameroute.com) that asks for an IP address cause not all registrars ask for an IP!

Almost all registrars allow name server registration. Some registrars call it registering name servers. Some call it creating name servers. Some call it creating hosts. I've never seen a registrar that doesn't support registering name servers. Even DollarDNS supports registering name servers and it isn't feature rich in terms of registration. It's a basic feature.

Your IP is here: www.whatismyip.com

That's what you use to register your name servers and assign an IP to your website domain and stuff.

Aha! you're right! How sneaky of them! In that case I then recommend www.lfdomains.com - 8.75 dollars a year I'll help you from there if you need it Iancr

Trellis and SilentRage,

Your reponses above are very helpful to me and very closed to
the problem I had for a while. I did posted below
message in different page, but I am posting again here to
hope your knowledge and experience can help me out.

I am new to DNS server (Windows 2003). I would like to
setup my own DNS server at home to host publicly in the internet
some of my registered domains.
Here are what I have done:

(1) I've already registered one domain name OAKGROVE-FL.BIZ
with VoxDomain.
(2) I am using Verizon DSL line with a static IP (let
say 4.61.194.196)
(3) From VoxDomain server, I did gave OAKGROVE-FL.BIZ 2
name servers FLORIDA.OAKGROVE-FL.BIZ and SAIGON.OAKGROVE-FL.BIZ
and their same IP addresses (same as above, 4.61.194.196)
(4) My server has:
- One PC name FLORIDA with LAN address 192.168.0.100 (Primary DNS)
- One PC name SAIGON with LAN address 192.168.0.101 (Secondary DNS)
- One PC name WWW with LAN address 192.0.103 (Web server)
- One router DLink DI-604 with LAN address 192.168.0.1 (Router)
- Port 80 has been opened for 192.168.0.103
- Port 53 has been opened for 192.168.0.100 (for DNS)
(5) On WWW (192.168.0.103) I already had IIS setup with some
web sites.

Note: 192.168.0.x are local addresses given by router.

From one of above 3 PCs, I can access web sites OK among these
4 units (WWW, FLORIDA,SAIGON,DI-604) Also I can ping them each
other with its names and its full domain names
(i.e ping FLORIDA.OAKGROVE-FL.BIZ) From this, I can tell
that my DNS server is working. But it looks like working locally only.
But I can not access from outside of the router. For example:
I can't access WWW.OAKGROVE-FL.BIZ from my workplace, but I can
access OK FLORIDA.OAKGROVE-FL.BIZ.

What did I do wrong or what will I need?

Thanks so much.

Few things you need to do/verify

First on the DNS server you must creat a Host (A) Record for Every one of those computers, including the nameservers. Then set a Nameserver (NS) Record on the DNS Server giving it the FQDNs of the two DNS servers.

Also check your router to make sure it's allowing the necessary ports to transmit from the server and outside the network.

Lastly, verify that the site you registered your nameservers and domain with use your real IP vs. the local one. Verify your real ip with www.whatismyip.com

If you have a firewall, make sure the proper ports are open for the requirements

~Trellis

Thanks for your help Trelliis.

I'm still a little confused,
1/ I thought that the registraer had to issue an unique IP address otherwise there could be lots of machines out there with the same IP address. Once issued this would then be the address which i would assign to my server.

2/ If this is true then my dns servers IP lets say 10.10.10.1 would resolve to mydomain.com.

When a user types in URL how does the users machine know where to look without adding a primary dns server lookup in their machine.

Also my dns server and web server are on the same machine for some reason i am getting the impression that they should be on seperate machines with different IP address's.


Thanks Again

1) Nobody on the internet has the same IP address. No network can have 2 functional IP addresses due to how packet routing works.

2) 10.10.10.1 will not resolve to anything on the internet. Many people might have this IP, cause it's on one of the IP branches that has been reserved for private network use. And if you want your IP to resolve to anything you need to contact the owner of the IP.

3) You can see the resolution process here:

Automatically:
http://www.dollardns.net/cgi-bin/dn...&lr=4&submit=DS

Manually (click purple links until you get an authoritative answer)
http://www.dollardns.net/cgi-bin/dn...n.com&submit=DS

4) Yes, your webserver and your dns server should be on seperate machines, and you should have a secondary webserver and dns server on a seperate network. You should also have 3-7 dns servers. But all this stuff is just icing. If you want them to be on the same IP, and the secondary dns server domain pointing to the same IP, then go right ahead.

Thanks

I'm a newbie to registering and dns so maybee i am asking the wrong questions.

I know that IP address's are unique to each machine which is why i wanted to know who will assign a unique ip address to me for my server.

I also know that 10.10.10.1 is for local networks i was just using that address as an example.

also i'm not sure what you mean by this:

If you want them to be on the same IP, and the secondary dns server domain pointing to the same IP, then go right ahead.

Excuse my ignorence

You already have a unique IP or you wouldn't be posting messages on this forum. You can look at your IP at this website. I already told you this. You use this IP to point domains to.

www.whatismyip.com

(rephrased) You may have all the following domains pointed to the same IP you find above:

ns1.thatdomainyouregistered.com
ns2.thatdomainyouregistered.com
www.thatdomainyouregistered.com

All,

As I said above, my DNS server has been setup and seems working locally. I can access www.oakgrove-fl.biz from my FLORIDA computer or from SAIGON computer. But I can't access WWW.OAKGROVE-FL.BIZ remotely from my workplace. However, I can access FLORIDA.OAKGROVE-FL.BIZ without the problem.

My Server Setup:
FLORIDA.OAKGROVE-FL.BIZ = Primary DNS Server
SAIGON.OAKGROVE-FL.BIZ = Secondary DNS Server
WWW.OAKGROVE-FL.BIZ = Web Server.

I think my question should be "how can I connect my DNS to a registra (VoxDomain)'s DNS server?

Thanks you all much.

PQN, you're confusing me. I almost thought you were Iancr. He started this topic and is still being helped. Please ask your question in a seperate topic.

Sure I will. Thanks

Iancr:

Your IP address is assigned to you by and ONLY by your ISP (Internet Service Provider) ... registrars do not assign IP addresses. Registrars only register a domain for you and allow you to point them to a DNS server. What you need to do is register your nameservers. Generally the registrar will allow you to do this.

Everything else is taken care of on your DNS servers. I get what you're asking: how does the registrar know to point to your specific computer. That's in the IP, you register your nameservers with your IP(s).

If you didn't understand a word I just said, you should've learned some more about DNS before buying a domain. I'm here and so are many others like SilentRage if you need anymore help. Best of luck

~Trellis

Hi Trellis,

From your above response, what can I do with one registra that not allow me to enter IP addresses. It allows only nameservers. In this case, all of domains registered with this company still work? (Sorry, I have to ask because my DNS server still under repair.)

Thanks.