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Old August 24th, 2003, 11:33 PM
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DNS problems with my own domain

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first sorry about the subject but I don't really knew what to put in there for the kind of "question" i'm about to write here.

Btw, let's call my domain: sicmaster.com, wich is not, but later on I'll let you know the real one



First some things you should know:

1) I have bought a domain name some months ago but not a webhost cause a friend of mine has one and he granted me a subdomain so I needed somehow to point my domain to the subdomain and I did with this cheap (I think it's cheap) redirection service (www.redirection.net) wich can point the domain to any URL you want you just have to add their DNS servers to the domain. You can also point subdomains to other URLs. I bought the domain mainly for my homepage.

2) I have apache running on my home PC wich is mostely connected 24/7 and I have a dynamic IP so I need to have a service like www.no-ip.com to point an address to my IP so people can surf on my host.

3) I don't want to host my homepage on my HTTP server at home because I have a DSL (512/128) connection.



Now, what I really wanted to do and I have no clue how to do it or if it's possible:

1) I want www.sicmaster.com to keep pointing to my subdomain on another domain/webhost granted by my friend.

2) I want, for instance server.sicmaster.com and ftp.sicmaster.com to point to my dynamic IP so I can use this 2 nameservers for: The first one to point to my HTTP server at home and the second on to point to my FTP server also at home. The difference in this 2 namserveres is in the next point.

3) I want server.sicmaster.com to only work with HTTP (port 80) and ftp.sicmaster.com to only work with FTP (port 21); so if I try to connect to my FTP with server.sicmaster.com, the FTP client would simple reject like that nameserver didn't exist and vice-versa. What I mean were also applies for any other kinds of services, like IRC, Newsgroups, etc... (I'll probably never want one of these, is just an example)

4) I want to create my own mailserver, the mailserver software doesn't matter, I'll choose one later one but I may use Visnetic MailServer. The problem here is that I want mail.sicmaster.com, for instance, to be the POP3 and SMTP servers, but like on (3), I don't want that nameserver (mail.sicmaster.com) to be used has link to my HTTP or FTP server, so it shouldn't "work" when someone points it in the browser or in a FTP client.


I think that's it, sorry for the long testimonial and I hope you understand what I really want and hope it's possible to do it and that you can help me.

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your post is overwhelming. It doesn't want to be read and comprehended. Perhaps it is the length, perhaps it is the small font, perhaps it is the colors, perhaps I'm just illiterate... But since you appear to be willing to be helpful with other people's problems, I want to help you with yours.

So I'm going to ask you a question or two which may have already been answered, but oh well, this topic was dissappearing down the list, so no complaining. ;-)

So let's see. Your friend. Is he your website host, or does he just host your subdomain or both? I'm also rather confused why you are even going to USE a subdomain redirect rather than point your domain directly to his computer IF he is indeed your website host.

So first I need to establish thus:

registrar: Domain is registered already, CHECK
domain host: is this your friend or you or a third party?
website host: this is probably your friend? perhaps just the front page? you the rest? not sure where front page came in.
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Old August 25th, 2003, 08:27 PM
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well... sorry about my post i knew it wasn't well written and I was going to write a new one and post a reply here and that's what i'm going to do so you can understand it correctly, gimme some time and i'll post something here and you'll understand (i hope so).

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Old August 26th, 2003, 08:21 AM
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Ok, let's see if I can explain this in a better way...

My friend has a professional webhosting service and his domain/site is www.sicarmy.org (the site is in portuguese but you can take a look if you want) with 750Mb webspace, unlimited bandwidth, etc... and he granted me the subdomain nazgulled.sicarmy.org so if you go to http://nazgulled.sicarmy.org you go to my homepage (also in portuguese) but I didn't want to advertise my homepage with that URL so I bought a domain wich is www.nazgulled.net.The domain only, would not work, that's why I also bought the redirection.net service.
I've add their DNS servers (ns.redirection.net/ns2.redirection.net) to my domain in the admin panel of my registrar then I configured the redirection.net service to point to http://nazgulled.sicarmy.org. So basicaly, when you go to www.nazgulled.net you go to nazgulled.sicarmy.org (I think you've realized that lol) but I have the CLOAK URL feature on so the address won't change.

About my HTTP/FTP server (wich is Apache). I have a dynamic IP so I had to singup for a service like no-ip.com. nazgulled.sytes.net == my home IP.



Now what I want to do:

- I want my domain to keep pointing to my subdomain granted by my friend, keeping the redirection service or if I need to loose the service doesn't matter. If the other things I want to do need me to loose this service, i'll do it with no problem as long as I can keep www.nazgulled.net to point to my "real" homepage URL.

- Instead of using nazgulled.sytes.net for my IP so people can connect to my FTP server I would like that to be ftp.nazgulled.net. But only to the FTP port so if people try that in HTTP to access my server, that wouldn't work.

- Instead of using nazgulled.sytes.net for my IP people can connect to my HTTP server with a browser to access my server I wanted them to have access to that by http://homeserver.nazgulled.net (for instance).

- I wanted also to have a mailserver so I could have mails with my domain (ie: __________@nazgulled.net). I know for this I have to create an A record and an MX record with property of 10 (or something like that), whatever that is, cause I don't really know what's that .
I want mail.nazgulled.net to be the POP3 and SMTP servers.


Now I hope you understand this but if you still have questions just ask them

Btw, I've installed BIND cuz I think it's with that program I have to configure all those things, but I have no clue how to do what I want and if it's possible to do it.

Thanks.

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I understood everything perfectly this time. Definately my recommendation is to lose the redirection.net service, and host your own domain. DNS Servers for low profile sites do not require much bandwidth, since your information is cached on other DNS servers temporarily after they make the lookup to your server once. Making this switch is cheaper, more flexible, and more satisfying (in my opinion) than using redirection.net even IF they provided the capabilities you need, which I don't know.

You say you have installed BIND. Good. You'll also need to change the registrar dns servers to point to just your server. If they require 2 domains, then give them 2 domains with the same IP address (your IP address). After that it is just a matter of configuring the BIND server and keeping your server online as much as possible.

If you should choose to not host it yourself, I would STILL recommend finding a real domain host rather than a redirection service. If your friend hosts his own domain, that is one viable choice. If that is indeed the case, it would cost him nothing, and only a little effort to host your domain as well.

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My friend's webhost has that option but it's very expensive, $6/month for hosting a domain and poiting it to a subdomain and I don't have the money to that that's why I bought the redirection service at the first time...

My registrat let me use up to 16 dns servers so I have question. If I leave the 2 dns servers for the redirection service can I add up more dns servers for different things, like for the HTTP/FTP/POP3/SMTP servers? I mean, can I keep the redirection service and still make ftp.nazgulled.net, homeserver.nazgulled.net, mail.nazgulled.net for my home ftp server, home http server and home pop3/smtp server respectively? I would prefer this way if possible, if not... doesn't matter

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You say you have installed BIND. Good. You'll also need to change the registrar dns servers to point to just your server. If they require 2 domains, then give them 2 domains with the same IP address (your IP address). After that it is just a matter of configuring the BIND server and keeping your server online as much as possible.


My IP is dynamic so I must keep the no-ip.com service right? So if my no-i+.com address is nazgulled.sytes.net (wich is basically my IP) I would add that 2 times (if needed) to my registrar dns servers right?



The problme now is, how to configure BIND for all that... I don't have a clue how to do it...

If it's easier for you to explain me in msn or irc, I don't mind, just let me now

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oh that is a problem. Your IP is dynamic eh. That, means you can't host your own domain unless you want to update the registrar records every time it changes. How often does it change? My IP is dynamic, but it changes like less than 10 times a year.

As for your question about adding to the servers... all servers must have the same information cause you can't be sure which server will be asked for domain information. Whether you HAVE to give up redirection.net is dependant on what they provide in terms of domain record customization.

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my IP changes everytime I connect to the internet so if I keep the connection to the internet alive for 1 month, the IP won't change that month. Bu can't I use the name I got from no-ip.com?? isn't suppose to be the "same thing"??

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you tell the registrar both the IP's and domain's of your dns server(s). Sure, no problem with giving them the name of your no-ip.com name, but you can't specify an IP address cause it will change. If however you are willing to modify the registrar specified dns server IP, then you can instead use a domain based off of the one you bought.

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ok, let's say that, that dns stuff is done and how of the way... what next? what do I have to configure to do what I want? (the homserver, ftp, mailserver things).

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Well, if you host your own mail server, then you'd need to download a mail server (perhaps sendmail for windows). If you host your own ftp server, then you'll need to download a ftp server (like Bulletproof FTP is what I use).

btw, if you want to get a hold of me in a chat, you can follow the example of 2 or 3 other people on this board. I host an IRC server (chat server) and people have visited my website to find the server address and channel and proceeded to talk to me in real time. If you have no clue how to use IRC... oh well.

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dns updater and etc

um there is a way to update your ip everytime u connect i run my owe server and subdomains if u need any more info feel free to email me tony2002@mchsi.com

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Actually all of those services are free or partially free. No payment necessary.

And my bad darkwizard. I thought you were asking for information on dynamic IP services. I'm going to delete that post now. It's totally not appropriate.

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its ok im just tring to help out my self but my self is wondering if there is a free control panel out there any where

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