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Old May 5th, 2008, 02:08 PM
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Help! Edit: 'Hijack' of domain through DNS

Help! We have a domain name asaholley.com but another domain name ozepiestore.com is directing to asaholley.com (GoDaddy is the registrar of both, and Godaddy reports that ozepiestore.com's A record is pointing to our server). It's a dedicated server, so I have total control over my DNS.

GoDaddy told me that I needed to set up an ip block to block ozepiestore.com but ozepiestore resolves to MY ip. Otherwise, it's DNS ip is a GoDaddy hosted name server. Of course GoDaddy being oh so helpful says that because it's a dedicated server they can't tell me how to do it (which albeit makes a bit of sense if I have custom stuff on it) My dedicated server provides it's own name servers and hosts names virtually. At this point I simply set up a landing page for ozepiestore.com on my server. Problem: ozepiestore.com is now ranking on google for asaholley.com instead of asaholley.com, so this doesn't really solve the problem.

I've contacted the owner of ozepiestore according to the whois, but the e-mail was returned.

How do I set up this ip block? I'm stuck at this point, because I don't really know what to look up and what I find is not really what I'm looking for.

Could someone please help me stop this domain name from pretending to be mine?

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Old May 5th, 2008, 03:08 PM
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I don't understand what the problem is.

They have registered a domain, and it goes to your site. So you can get the advertizing money when someone goes to their site.

You get all the traffic.

You can edit your index.html to say "we really are not ozepiestore.com but you are here because their are bozos"
but its not clear that is worth doing.

Can you just sell pie using their name?

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I can. If instead of these domains just picture:

childrensbibleverses.com

and redirecting to this is

sodomyandbeastiality.com

Now is there a problem? :-)

You can configure your server to reject the unwanted traffic. It's going to be much simpler for you if you just tackle it server side.
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Sounds like a little mod-rewrite is the solution.

But I still don't see it, Its not as if the childrensbible is going to porn, its the other way. Just sell some pie.

Unless ozpie is some down under curse that I've got tin ears for.

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Sounds like a little mod-rewrite is the solution.

But I still don't see it, Its not as if the childrensbible is going to porn, its the other way. Just sell some pie.

Unless ozpie is some down under curse that I've got tin ears for.


I hadn't thought of mod_rewrite, I'll give that a try, thanks.

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I can. If instead of these domains just picture:

childrensbibleverses.com

and redirecting to this is

sodomyandbeastiality.com

Now is there a problem? :-)

You can configure your server to reject the unwanted traffic. It's going to be much simpler for you if you just tackle it server side.


How would you suggest I configure it I guess is the question. I'm putting together my strategy. As of now, I've started accepting 'ozepiestore.com' on my server as it's own domain, capturing it in a sense. Is that the best way to go?

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How would you suggest I configure it I guess is the question. I'm putting together my strategy. As of now, I've started accepting 'ozepiestore.com' on my server as it's own domain, capturing it in a sense. Is that the best way to go?


Trivial approach would be to setup ozepiestore.com as a virtual host, send it to a page that says whatever you want.
Or you could 404 it, 301 moved, etc.

This is trivial in apache. don't know what server you are using.

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I can. If instead of these domains just picture:

childrensbibleverses.com

and redirecting to this is

sodomyandbeastiality.com

Now is there a problem? :-)

You can configure your server to reject the unwanted traffic. It's going to be much simpler for you if you just tackle it server side.



And that's a problem why? If I run a domain sodomyandbeastiality.com and someone is directing childrensbibleverses.com to it, that's their problem. Surely, if I'd run such a site in the first place, I'd hardly care how my visitors arrived. Now, if I ran childrensbibleverses.com and somehow, someone made it redirect to sodomyandbeastiality.com without my knowledge, then I'd have a problem.

But as far as I see it, you're getting free traffic from them. Enjoy it.
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And that's a problem why? If I run a domain sodomyandbeastiality.com and someone is directing childrensbibleverses.com to it, that's their problem. Surely, if I'd run such a site in the first place, I'd hardly care how my visitors arrived. Now, if I ran childrensbibleverses.com and somehow, someone made it redirect to sodomyandbeastiality.com without my knowledge, then I'd have a problem.

But as far as I see it, you're getting free traffic from them. Enjoy it.


Okay, I'm going to try your suggestions, but you don't get it.

asaholley.com is a site for an actor.

When you google the actor's name you get his site, but under ozepiestore.com

This is bad, when others visit it, it can tarnish the actors reputability because he has a weird website, when on his card it says asaholley.com

It's like the fashion industry, why do people make weird judgments? I don't know, but they do.

Google should say asaholley.com, as much as we can get it to to point to our resource which is all about the actor. That's our end goal. I don't care about how somebody could just set up a fake site and do the same thing, this is just our goal.

Again I'll try your suggestions, but I wanted to point out again why this is a problem.

Edit: I'm sorry if I ranted, but I find it not very useful to persist that something's not a problem and placing no trust in the idea that it's a problem for me. I'm asking if anyone knows how I might set up a DNS ip block for this like GoDaddy suggested... not how I can take advantage of it.
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Okay, I'm going to try your suggestions, but you don't get it.

asaholley.com is a site for an actor.

When you google the actor's name you get his site, but under ozepiestore.com

This is bad, when others visit it, it can tarnish the actors reputability because he has a weird website, when on his card it says asaholley.com

It's like the fashion industry, why do people make weird judgments? I don't know, but they do.

Google should say asaholley.com, as much as we can get it to to point to our resource which is all about the actor. That's our end goal. I don't care about how somebody could just set up a fake site and do the same thing, this is just our goal.

Again I'll try your suggestions, but I wanted to point out again why this is a problem.

Edit: I'm sorry if I ranted, but I find it not very useful to persist that something's not a problem and placing no trust in the idea that it's a problem for me. I'm asking if anyone knows how I might set up a DNS ip block for this like GoDaddy suggested... not how I can take advantage of it.


No worries mate. The reason that I said it wasn't a problem was simply because I didn't understand what you meant and what I thought you meant really isn't a problem. If that makes any sense.

But basically, you're upset that an unrelated site has a higher Google search result position than you? And more people will go to that site to see Asa Holley when they should be going to asaholley.com? That sucks, but it happens to all of us. If your site is worthwhile, it will work it's way up to the top. Google's algorithm is pretty good.

Why not offer the owner of ozepiestore.com (without making any mention of your affiliation with Asa Holley) a few bucks to buy the domain name. Just say your name is Ozepi and you want to open an e-Store. Or buy some Adwords, that will give you space above the top result, which may draw in enough people that Google's algorithm picks up "asa holley = asaholley.com".

Either way, if his business card has the correct address, that's probably the best thing you can do. Anyone that searches his name will get a myriad of results, some related and some not. That's just how search engines work, unfortunately.

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But basically, you're upset that an unrelated site has a higher Google search result position than you? And more people will go to that site to see Asa Holley when they should be going to asaholley.com? That sucks, but it happens to all of us. If your site is worthwhile, it will work it's way up to the top. Google's algorithm is pretty good.


I will take everyone's suggestions here and work with them.

The problem is not that ozepiestore.com is ranking higher than mine because he is being equated as Asa Holley. The problem is that he's using MY SITE to rank himself high as asaholley. I understand that this is not entirely in my control and I can't force google to do anything.

I think I've found a solution regardless.

Thank you for your replies.

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