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Old January 31st, 2004, 07:46 PM
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To host own DNS, GODADDY isn't a good choice?

I have a dedicate server with fix ip.

I want to set up my own DNS server as
NS1.mysite.com NS2.mysite.com

But godaddy domain manage center did not provide a field for IP address of name server to fill in.

Without that, how can URL be resolved by ns1.mysite.com's name service since ns1.mysite.com is not IP address?

I asked godaddy, they response:
Thank you for contacting customer support. Unfortunately, our system does not accept the ip address of nameservers. Please use the fully qualified domain name of the nameservers.

So to host own DNS, GODADDY isn't a good choice?


Anybody has any suggestion?

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Old January 31st, 2004, 08:54 PM
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Customer support lied. You CAN specify the IP address. You need to find where godaddy has a link for registering name servers. After you create the name server domains with IP's, THEN you can use them in your name server host list.
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Old February 2nd, 2004, 04:57 PM
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Unfortunately, our system does not accept the ip address of nameservers. Please use the fully qualified domain name of the nameservers.


I think they meant that you can't use an IP address for your domains nameserver record, and this is true. But you can register your domain as a nameserver, using an IP address.

Godaddy as a Registrar for DNS is actually an excellent choice. I've tried sever others, one being enom, and they don't allow you to duplicate an IP address.

For Godaddy:
1. Go to http://godaddy.com and login.
2. Select the Domain Names menu, Manage Domain link.
3. Select the domain name that you'd like to manage.
4. On the right of the screen, click to expand Domain Host Summary.
5. Then select the link, Click here to see details or to modify. in the Domain Host Summary.
6. Click Add New Host.
7. Enter your Host, for example NS1.
8. Enter your IP address.
9. Click Save Changes.
10. Repeat 6-9 for your second Host.
11. Let it propagate.

You can use the same IP address twice. In fact I just noticed that I used the same address twice for a server unintentionally. But I have done it on purpose for another server.
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Old February 2nd, 2004, 05:37 PM
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you would just have to drag up a topic where I erroneously thought godaddy still didn't allow identical IPs. *edited post*

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Old March 9th, 2004, 09:02 AM
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Thumbs down GoDaddy - service problems

I have a couple of customers with godaddy registrations. It appears that godaddy is more concerned with who generated the account than who the registrant or the owner of the domain might be. We needed to change the dns servers for one account and when we tried the email message was being aimed at the developer who originally setup the name..(no longer in business and no longer getting email) not to the admin contact of the actual domain!

SO if you use them just be careful how you setup clients. You can lock a domain owner out! It has now been three weeks, three faxes, six phone calls, five emails, several promisses of a call back and we still cant change DNS for the owner of the domain. Yep the owner administrator tech contact are even shown on the WHOIS lookup for the domain at GoDaddy,,, doesn't matter.. they didn't setup the account!!!!!!

I guess we will have to file a complaint with ICANN to solve the issue.. in the mean time we just have to leave the site on a server and dns servers that are near death.

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Old March 9th, 2004, 10:52 AM
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aha! Thanks for letting me know, from now on if I recommend registrars I will say bad things about godaddy. I understand completely what you're talking about and that is definately something that needs to be brought before ICANN. That is reason enough for me to not use Godaddy for certain.

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Old March 9th, 2004, 10:38 PM
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Very good point although I believe that all registrars may behave that way, at least initially, under those circustances. I'm sure at some point they'll see the light and change your nameservers. I wouldn't wait, I'd go to another registrar and initiate a transfer of the domain. The transfer approval email will go to the registrant, so if that information is correct you can have your domain back under your control in less than 5 days.

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Old March 10th, 2004, 10:37 AM
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Regards the original question, I think godaddy probably meant you can't enter just an ip address on the nameserver section for the domain - you have to enter your nameservers on the nameserver setup page - to get there you need to click on 'Add New Nameserver' (yellow button) in the 'Nameservers' page for the domain you're editing.

I wouldn't say bad things about godaddy - in my experience they're very helpful, very cheap but the interface is excellent despite the fact they're so cheap. Just my opinion though :P

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Old March 10th, 2004, 12:02 PM
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yeah, I should say that godaddy is a bad choice for resellers or people who register domains for friends or something. In that case the contact information for a given domain would be different and if the account owner dissappeared, there wouldn't be any problems transfering.

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Old March 10th, 2004, 11:16 PM
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Godaddy doesn't have reseller accounts, Wildwest hosts the reseller business. The root of the problem is that someone had a third party buy a domain for them and most likely never had any interface to make changes in the first place, since they didn't buy the domain. This is similar to having your host buy your domain for you or giving you a domain as part of a hosting plan. They generally have the correct information registered, but they maintain control of the domain. It can be resolved, but it won't happen overnight.

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Old March 11th, 2004, 02:25 AM
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Goodness, you are seriously defending godaddy here. Yes, I agree that resellers SHOULD use one of the following services for reseller accounts:

wildwestdomains
tucows opensrs
enom

However, resellers may still use other services cause it's cheaper to go the unprofessional route. It's good to warn people about godaddy being a bad choice - or worse choice than usual with simple reselling. And btw, this comment:

"most likely never had any interface to make changes in the first place, since they didn't buy the domain"

Good thing you said most likely. An experienced HTTP programmer could invent an API to automate transactions between their website and a normal domain registrar. I've seriously considered doing this, but it rubs me the wrong way. I'm currently investigating enom as a better solution.

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Old March 11th, 2004, 06:34 AM
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Goodness, you are seriously defending godaddy here.

Not really, just setting the record straight. Buy a domain in that fashion from anyone, and the potential for problems is great. If you'll notice, I neither promoted nor slammed Godaddy.

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However, resellers may still use other services cause it's cheaper to go the unprofessional route. It's good to warn people about godaddy being a bad choice - or worse choice than usual with simple reselling.

It's better to warn them that the method is flawed, then to let them think it's a one time bad deal with one company.

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Good thing you said most likely. An experienced HTTP programmer could invent an API to automate transactions between their website and a normal domain registrar. I've seriously considered doing this, but it rubs me the wrong way. I'm currently investigating enom as a better solution.
Nothing is absolute, and I'm sure it's possible. However, if the registrar is unaware of that, how will they treat your customers?

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Old March 11th, 2004, 11:22 AM
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yeah well getting a domain through a web host is generally a bad idea and causes problems too, but people still do it, and there's still reasons for it. Just because a method isn't the BEST way doesn't make it worthless. If a domain reseller chooses to use www.mydomain.com for example as the backbone behind their service, that's their prerogative, and they can provide a good service that way. It is most definately possible.

So if such a reseller wants to be warned that godaddy happens to be even worse than say www.mydomain.com cause it does not follow ICANN regulations then they have a right to know.

So if your point is only that there is a better way, then I agree, and the debate ends. But if you insist that the simple reselling should never be considered then I respectfully disagree for the above reasons.

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So if such a reseller wants to be warned that godaddy happens to be even worse than say www.mydomain.com cause it does not follow ICANN regulations then they have a right to know.

The point to consider is that if I have a domain in my account and I've paid the fee's, my contract is with the registrar. I may have someone else listed as the domain owner, that's my choice. Now let's say, you for instance, call the registrar and want the nameservers changed, they're in a terrible position. They have a contract with me and you want them to modify it's terms. Don't you think they have an obligation to contact me? Even though your listed as the domains owner, I have some legal right to control, because of the process used to purchase the domain. In the end you will get control of the domain, since you are the legal registrant and ICANN regulations. But all of this must be proven first, just simply having an email account that is the same as the registrants doesn't mean anything. If the registrar simply used that only, domains would be hijacked every minute of the day. How can Godaddy be blamed for protecting the interest of their customer? Remember, in this case the registrant has no relationship to Godaddy.

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So if your point is only that there is a better way, then I agree, and the debate ends. But if you insist that the simple reselling should never be considered then I respectfully disagree for the above reasons.
My point is that this is an unconventional method. An actual reseller using a registrar that provides for reselling has a contractual requirement to meet certain obligations. There can be problems with this too, but the registrar has mechanism's to deal with them.

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