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Old June 25th, 2004, 05:07 PM
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What to do after getting delegation from ISP?

We have a mail server running on SBC Business DSL. We have been unable to send mail to some domains because we lack a PTR record.

I contacted SBC to create a PTR record. (mail.ppihealth.com = 66.137.139.81)

They responded back with the following:

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This is the information I have input into the system. If there are any discrepancies please notify me so I can make the proper modification(s).

Our computers propagate everyday at 5 PM. Thanks again for choosing Pacific Bell Internet.

Please do not reply, if you have any questions or need modification (s), please call me at 1800-833-2120 Opt. 1-2-1.



Thank you.

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ppihealth.com

Delegation for IP block 66.137.139.80/29
Prim Domain = ppihealth.com


I contacted my registrar, domainsite.com, and they said they cannot create PTR records and I would have to ask my ISP to do so.

I am at a lost as what to do now and I believe all I have left is to host my own nameservers.

Do I have any options? and if so how would I go about implementing them?

Thanks in advance,

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Old June 25th, 2004, 05:34 PM
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That's pretty screwed up. SBC is doing this:

81.139.137.66.in-addr.arpa. CNAME 81.139.137.66.in-addr.ppihealth.com.
82.139.137.66.in-addr.arpa. CNAME 82.139.137.66.in-addr.ppihealth.com.
...etc...

This is a terribly non-standard solution. But if mail servers don't have any problem with it, then you need to setup a PTR record in your "ppihealth.com" master zone. Currently domainsite.com manages your ppihealth.com master zone. You have 3 choices:

1) switch domain hosts. Either host the master zone yourself, or move to a domain host that supports PTR records in your master zone. As far as I know, DollarDNS and GraniteCanyon are the only domain hosts that allows this and are free.

2) Tell SBC to not use a CNAME or delegations. Have them assign a PTR record instead to your mail server domain.

3) Tell SBC to not use a CNAME, but to delegate resolution to the server of your choice. This can be a server you host yourself, or any domain host that supports reverse zones. You can see a list of free services here:

http://www.dollardns.net/compare.html
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Thank You

SilentRage,

Thank you for helping. Your answer has been very helpful.

If I were to use method #1, would I create something like the following in the master zone?:

81.139.137.66.in-addr.ppihealth.com. PTR mail.ppihealth.com

Or am I way off?

If SBC is delegating in a non-standard way, I may just end up asking them to delegate resolution to another server, which allows me more control over DNS records.

Thanks again for your help.

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Yes, this is the valid syntax (you left off the period on the end)

81.139.137.66.in-addr.ppihealth.com. PTR mail.ppihealth.com.

Yes, this is incredibly non-standard. As I mentioned, nobody even considers adding PTR records to a master zone. The 2 services I mentioned DOES have raw zone editing support, so at least those 2 services can accomodate you.

Also, I think I see that you've registered an account on my server and played around a bit with PTR records in a master zone. The "Zone Builder" does not support adding PTR records, but you can add them using the "Zone Editor" (raw zone editing interface) and edit/delete them using the Zone Builder.

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