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    (LONG) I can find my virtualhosted site on my lan, but not on internet


    Okay, so here's some information about what I'm trying to do.
    I've interspersed some questions as I go in case some of the work I've done so far is causing my problems. I've also put copious screen output to help answer some questions about what I've tried to debug so far. Please bear with me on this one, as it's my first post on DNS issues.

    I have set up DNS on my Linux box, and registered that box as a nameserver called ns.fuzzybundles.com. ns.fuzzybundles.com appears to be fine and visible to the internet as shown by dig (dig issued from a 3rd party completely
    unrelated machine):

    Code:
    ptdl052:>dig ns.fuzzybundles.com
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> ns.fuzzybundles.com
    ;; global options:  printcmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 18446
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0
    
    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;ns.fuzzybundles.com.           IN      A
    
    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    ns.fuzzybundles.com.    85146   IN      A       12.206.3.66
    
    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    fuzzybundles.com.       85146   IN      NS      park7.secureserver.net.
    fuzzybundles.com.       85146   IN      NS      park8.secureserver.net.
    
    ;; Query time: 23 msec
    ;; SERVER: 137.102.151.30#53(137.102.151.30)
    ;; WHEN: Wed Jul  2 11:24:55 2003
    ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 109
    I also have a domain named djradiuspdx.com
    It's using the following nameservers:
    Primary: ns.fuzzybundles.com
    Secondary: ns.tzo.com

    Currently the secondary is there just to make my registrar happy, as ns.tzo.com doesn't actually know how to give an ip for djradiuspdx. I did that because ns.fuzzybundles.com
    is my primary, and if it's down, then my website is also down. djradiuspdx.com is intended to be hosted on 12.206.3.66 using virtual hosting (along with other domains after I figure this out the first time). I'll probably also create ns1.fuzzybundles.com eventually, but I'm trying to get this stuff working before I spend more money getting names that I may not need to have.

    Question 1: Is the fact that I don't have two nameservers that can independently map djradiuspdx.com to an IP a definite
    showstopper?


    Now from my in-home LAN (on the ns.fuzzybundles.com machine itself), I can ask for www.djradiuspdx.com and I will get:

    Code:
    [root@localhost named]# dig www.djradiuspdx.com
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> www.djradiuspdx.com
    ;; global options:  printcmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16648
    ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1
    
    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;www.djradiuspdx.com.           IN      A
    
    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    www.djradiuspdx.com.    86400   IN      A       12.206.3.66
    
    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    djradiuspdx.com.        86400   IN      NS      ns.fuzzybundles.com.
    
    ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
    ns.fuzzybundles.com.    86400   IN      A       12.206.3.66
    
    ;; Query time: 2 msec
    ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
    ;; WHEN: Wed Jul  2 11:36:59 2003
    ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 99
    So it seems to me that (I think) my DNS is working okay at least in respect to my configuring the named.djradiuspdx.conf file and the entry of a djradiuspdx.conf zone to my named.conf file.

    However, from the internet, dig will only get me the following:

    Code:
    ptdl052:>dig www.djradiuspdx.com
    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> www.djradiuspdx.com
    ;; global options:  printcmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 61893
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
    
    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;www.djradiuspdx.com.           IN      A
    
    ;; Query time: 2091 msec
    ;; SERVER: 137.102.151.30#53(137.102.151.30)
    ;; WHEN: Wed Jul  2 12:38:37 2003
    ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 37
    Since that didn't get me the IP, I try each hop using dig:

    Code:
    ptdl052:>dig www.djradiuspdx.com +norec
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> www.djradiuspdx.com +norec
    ;; global options:  printcmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 56722
    ;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 0
    
    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;www.djradiuspdx.com.           IN      A
    
    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    com.                    172573  IN      NS      I.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com.                    172573  IN      NS      J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com.                    172573  IN      NS      K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com.                    172573  IN      NS      L.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com.                    172573  IN      NS      M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com.                    172573  IN      NS      A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com.                    172573  IN      NS      B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com.                    172573  IN      NS      C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com.                    172573  IN      NS      D.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com.                    172573  IN      NS      E.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com.                    172573  IN      NS      F.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com.                    172573  IN      NS      G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com.                    172573  IN      NS      H.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    
    ;; Query time: 57 msec
    ;; SERVER: 137.102.151.30#53(137.102.151.30)
    ;; WHEN: Wed Jul  2 12:38:42 2003
    ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 261
    
    ptdl052:>dig www.djradiuspdx.com +norec @B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> www.djradiuspdx.com +norec @B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    ;; global options:  printcmd
    ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
    So at the GTLD servers level, djradiuspdx.com doesn't point to anything. I pointed djradiuspdx.com to the nameserver ns.fuzzybundles.com about 3 days ago, so I'd think it would have
    propagated by now. (djradiuspdx.com can be whois'ed to see that it's out there.)

    QUESTION 2: Is there ANYTHING about my nameserver setup that would cause the GTLD-SERVERS to NOT point djradiuspdx.com to ns.fuzzybundles.com?

    For example, if the GTLD servers have to pretest that both nameservers for djradiuspdx.com must resolve to an IP before registering the name at that top level, that would be an explanation -- or maybe they just register domains without any testing of the nameservers that will handle requests for IPs for those domains. I don't know that answer.

    Overall, I'm confused about whether I have a configuration problem on my end which is making djradiuspdx.com not appear on the internet, or if there is some issue causing djradiuspdx.com to not be recorded as pointing to ns.fuzzybundles.com as it's nameserver. I just can't tell right now where the responsiblities of the dns hops lie -- what's my fault (my nameserver or its config files), and what might be a problem with other resources (GTLD servers not recording my info properly).

    I've managed to teach myself all I've needed to get this far with
    Linux, apache, virtual hosting, etc, and I'll be darned but I just can't get this nameserver+virtual hosting combination figured out. I'd really appreciate help from someone who can see where I might be off-track.

    Here's the relevant parts of my named.conf and named.djradiuspdx.com files:
    Code:
    named.conf:
    zone "fuzzybundles.com" {
            type master;
            notify no;
            file "named.fuzzybundles.com";
    };
    
    zone "djradiuspdx.com" {
            type master;
            notify no;
            file "named.djradiuspdx.com";
    };
    
    zone "3.206.12.in-addr.arpa" IN {
            type master;
            notify no;
            file "named.12.206.3";
    };
    
    named.fuzzybundles.com
    $TTL    86400
    @       IN      SOA     ns.fuzzybundles.com.  root.fuzzybundles.com. (
                                          1997022700 ; Serial
                                          28800      ; Refresh
                                          14400      ; Retry
                                          3600000    ; Expire
                                          86400  )   ; Minimum
                    NS      ns              ; Inet Address of name server
    
    localhost       A       127.0.0.1
    ns              A       12.206.3.66
    www             CNAME   ns
    
    named.djradiuspdx.com
    $TTL    86400
    @       IN      SOA     djradiuspdx.com.  root.djradiuspdx.com. (
                                          1997022700 ; Serial
                                          28800      ; Refresh
                                          14400      ; Retry
                                          3600000    ; Expire
                                          86400  )   ; Minimum
                    NS      ns.fuzzybundles.com.
    
    localhost       A       127.0.0.1
    www             A       12.206.3.66
    
    named.12.206.3
    $TTL    86400
    @       IN      SOA     ns.fuzzybundles.com.  root.fuzzybundles.com. (
                                          1997022700 ; Serial
                                          28800      ; Refresh
                                          14400      ; Retry
                                          3600000    ; Expire
                                          86400  )   ; Minimum
            IN      NS      ns.fuzzybundles.com. 
    
    66      IN      PTR     ns.fuzzybundles.com.
    Thanks!
    --DJ Radius
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    While looking into this, I have been having issues with ns.fuzzybundles.com. It worked a few times, then it wouldn't resolve. It looks like your registrar (I assume that's who you created the ns.fuzzybundles.com record with?) are having issues.

    Also, I could not ping 12.206.3.66 a lot of the time, although it worked a few times.

    It's going to be hard to solve this problem unless you can (a) sort out the issues with ns.fuzzybundles.com and (b) keep 12.206.3.66 alive long enough for me to be able to get my bearings!
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    UGH, my X-server is freaking out. Let me kill X, and that'll probably help with this.

    Okay, X is killed, I'm hoping that ns.fuzzybundles.com behaviour has become normal again as a result.


    If there's any work you'd like me to do on my end while you poke around with the connections, that's fine with me. Anything to help...

    --DJ Radius

    Code:
      PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
      397 root      20  -1 37088  18M  5836 R <  94.6  7.3  8667m X
    14827 root      19  19  7224 7220  5804 S N   1.3  2.8   6:06 kmatrix.kss
    18563 root      12   0  1080 1080   836 R     0.5  0.4   0:00 top
    24955 nobody     9   0 31768  23M  8428 S     0.1  9.5  14:46 lt-ntop
        1 root       8   0   120   72    72 S     0.0  0.0   0:04 init
        2 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:01 keventd
        3 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00 kapm-idled
        4 root      19  19     0    0     0 SWN   0.0  0.0   0:00 ksoftirqd_CPU0
        5 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:05 kswapd
        6 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00 kreclaimd
        7 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:01 bdflush
        8 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:02 kupdated
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    That is strange, about the pinging. You can load the web page on that machine by using http://12.206.3.66, so it's still connected to the internet, but I also found that ping wasn't responding nicely (using an online utility that pings from who-knows-where).

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    Here's some info on the registrar. I bought fuzzybundles.com at godaddy, and configured the domain host information to create ns.fuzzybundles.com located at 12.206.3.66.

    Here's some dig info:
    Code:
    ptdl052:>dig ns.fuzzybundles.com
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> ns.fuzzybundles.com
    ;; global options:  printcmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 49580
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0
    
    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;ns.fuzzybundles.com.           IN      A
    
    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    ns.fuzzybundles.com.    71440   IN      A       12.206.3.66
    
    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    fuzzybundles.com.       3517    IN      NS      PARK8.SECURESERVER.NET.
    fuzzybundles.com.       3517    IN      NS      PARK7.SECURESERVER.NET.
    
    ;; Query time: 31 msec
    ;; SERVER: 137.102.151.30#53(137.102.151.30)
    ;; WHEN: Wed Jul  2 15:13:21 2003
    ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 109
    Nothing spectacular above, just that ns.fuzzybundles.com is at my IP address and godaddy's nameservers (park[7-8].secureserver.net) are the ones who provided ns.fuzzybundles.com = 12.206.3.66

    Code:
    ptdl052:>dig fuzzybundles.com
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> fuzzybundles.com
    ;; global options:  printcmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 50258
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0
    
    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;fuzzybundles.com.              IN      A
    
    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    fuzzybundles.com.       3525    IN      A       64.202.162.37
    
    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    fuzzybundles.com.       3525    IN      NS      PARK7.SECURESERVER.NET.
    fuzzybundles.com.       3525    IN      NS      PARK8.SECURESERVER.NET.
    
    ;; Query time: 31 msec
    ;; SERVER: 137.102.151.30#53(137.102.151.30)
    ;; WHEN: Wed Jul  2 15:13:13 2003
    ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 106
    The above shows fuzzybundles.com resolving to 64.202.162.37
    . I'm guessing that is where they take fuzzybundles.com and send it to their own machines to drive the DNS lookup to the ns.fuzzybundles.com nameserver, since that's technically what I've registered with them -- a nameserver -- and not a general website domain.

    Code:
    ptdl052:>dig -x 64.202.162.37
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> -x 64.202.162.37
    ;; global options:  printcmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 45140
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
    
    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;37.162.202.64.in-addr.arpa.    IN      PTR
    
    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    37.162.202.64.in-addr.arpa. 3485 IN     PTR     ip-64-202-162-37.secureserver.net.
    
    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    162.202.64.in-addr.arpa. 3485   IN      NS      wsc2.jomax.net.
    162.202.64.in-addr.arpa. 3485   IN      NS      wsc1.jomax.net.
    
    ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
    wsc1.jomax.net.         92962   IN      A       63.241.136.66
    wsc2.jomax.net.         92962   IN      A       63.241.136.31
    
    ;; Query time: 96 msec
    ;; SERVER: 137.102.151.30#53(137.102.151.30)
    ;; WHEN: Wed Jul  2 15:14:24 2003
    ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 167
    wsc[1-2].jomax.net is (I think) godaddy's IPs for the nameservers that are supposed to point people looking for fuzzybundles.com to ns.fuzzybundles.com.

    Not sure if the above info helps at all.

    --DJ Radius
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    It looks like the problem is with ns.fuzzybundles.com

    I cannot get any information from the authorative server (park7.secureserver.net) about this domain. This server is lame - i.e. it is designated as authorative for a domain, but is not providing DNS information about it (or doesn't seem to from my point of view - I have queried three separate name servers here in the UK for it).

    You need to get it to provide DNS information for fuzzybundles.com. My dig command outputted this:
    Code:
    [root@vaio root]# dig ns.fuzzybundles.com
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> ns.fuzzybundles.com
    ;; global options:  printcmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 48441
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
    
    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;ns.fuzzybundles.com.           IN      A
    
    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    fuzzybundles.com.       2274    IN      SOA     PARK7.SECURESERVER.NET. dns.jomax.NET. 2003070101 10800 3600 604800 3600
    
    ;; Query time: 30 msec
    ;; SERVER: 212.23.8.1#53(212.23.8.1)
    ;; WHEN: Wed Jul  2 23:37:35 2003
    ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 105
    
    [root@vaio root]#
    Note there is no "answer" section.
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    I was running the same type of stuff in parallel with you. Since my values are cached here at work I had to query directly to godaddy's nameservers. Here's what I saw:

    Code:
    ptdl052:>dig ns.fuzzybundles.com +norec @PARK8.SECURESERVER.NET.
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> ns.fuzzybundles.com +norec @PARK8.SECURESERVER.NET.
    ;; global options:  printcmd
    ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
     -= 9 =-
    ptdl052:>dig ns.fuzzybundles.com +norec @PARK7.SECURESERVER.NET.
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> ns.fuzzybundles.com +norec @PARK7.SECURESERVER.NET.
    ;; global options:  printcmd
    ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
     -= 9 =-
    ptdl052:>dig ns.fuzzybundles.com +norec @wsc1.jomax.NET.
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> ns.fuzzybundles.com +norec @wsc1.jomax.NET.
    ;; global options:  printcmd
    ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
     -= 9 =-
    ptdl052:>dig ns.fuzzybundles.com +norec @wsc2.jomax.NET.
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> ns.fuzzybundles.com +norec @wsc2.jomax.NET.
    ;; global options:  printcmd
    ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
     -= 9 =-
    Seems that none of them are able to give an answer (or not timeout for that matter). I'm going to call godaddy right now and tell them about it. I'll post back here when I'm done.
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    Update: here is a dnstrace (a tool from djbdns) to ns.fuzzybundles.com from a.gtld-servers.net:
    Code:
    [root@vaio root]# dnstrace a ns.fuzzybundles.com 192.5.6.30 | dnstracesort
    
    1 ns.fuzzybundles.com 192.5.6.30       172800 A 12.206.3.66
    1 ns.fuzzybundles.com 64.202.161.138   NXDOMAIN
    1 ns.fuzzybundles.com 64.202.163.10    NXDOMAIN
    
    1 park7.secureserver.net 192.5.6.30       172800 A 64.202.161.138
    1 park7.secureserver.net 63.241.136.31    3600 A 64.202.161.138
    1 park7.secureserver.net 63.241.136.66    3600 A 64.202.161.138
    
    1 park8.secureserver.net 192.5.6.30       172800 A 64.202.163.10
    1 park8.secureserver.net 63.241.136.31    3600 A 64.202.163.10
    1 park8.secureserver.net 63.241.136.66    3600 A 64.202.163.10
    
    1 wsc1.jomax.net 192.5.6.30       172800 A 63.241.136.66
    1 wsc1.jomax.net 63.241.136.31    3600 A 63.241.136.66
    1 wsc1.jomax.net 63.241.136.66    3600 A 63.241.136.66
    
    1 wsc2.jomax.net 192.5.6.30       172800 A 63.241.136.31
    1 wsc2.jomax.net 63.241.136.31    3600 A 63.241.136.31
    1 wsc2.jomax.net 63.241.136.66    3600 A 63.241.136.31
    
    glue . start            A 192.5.6.30
    glue . start            NS .
    
    glue fuzzybundles.com 192.5.6.30       NS park7.secureserver.net
    glue fuzzybundles.com 192.5.6.30       NS park8.secureserver.net
    
    glue jomax.net 192.5.6.30       NS wsc1.jomax.net
    glue jomax.net 63.241.136.31    NS wsc1.jomax.net
    glue jomax.net 63.241.136.66    NS wsc1.jomax.net
    glue jomax.net 192.5.6.30       NS wsc2.jomax.net
    glue jomax.net 63.241.136.31    NS wsc2.jomax.net
    glue jomax.net 63.241.136.66    NS wsc2.jomax.net
    
    glue ns.fuzzybundles.com 192.5.6.30       A 12.206.3.66
    
    glue park7.secureserver.net 192.5.6.30       A 64.202.161.138
    glue park7.secureserver.net 63.241.136.31    A 64.202.161.138
    glue park7.secureserver.net 63.241.136.66    A 64.202.161.138
    
    glue park8.secureserver.net 192.5.6.30       A 64.202.163.10
    glue park8.secureserver.net 63.241.136.31    A 64.202.163.10
    glue park8.secureserver.net 63.241.136.66    A 64.202.163.10
    
    glue secureserver.net 192.5.6.30       NS wsc1.jomax.net
    glue secureserver.net 63.241.136.31    NS wsc1.jomax.net
    glue secureserver.net 63.241.136.66    NS wsc1.jomax.net
    glue secureserver.net 192.5.6.30       NS wsc2.jomax.net
    glue secureserver.net 63.241.136.31    NS wsc2.jomax.net
    glue secureserver.net 63.241.136.66    NS wsc2.jomax.net
    
    glue wsc1.jomax.net 192.5.6.30       A 63.241.136.66
    glue wsc1.jomax.net 63.241.136.31    A 63.241.136.66
    glue wsc1.jomax.net 63.241.136.66    A 63.241.136.66
    
    glue wsc2.jomax.net 192.5.6.30       A 63.241.136.31
    glue wsc2.jomax.net 63.241.136.31    A 63.241.136.31
    glue wsc2.jomax.net 63.241.136.66    A 63.241.136.31
    [root@vaio root]#
    park7.secureserver.net (64.202.161.138) and park8.secureserver.net (64.202.163.10) returned nxdomain when asked about your domain. Since those two are the authorities for fuzzybundles.com, DNS information for this domain won't be visible to the internet.
    Alex
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    For comparison (and also because I have to have the 1000th post in the DNS forum ) here is the output of a dnstrace for one of my domains:
    Code:
    [root@vaio root]# dnstrace a a.ns.agreg.com 192.5.6.30 | dnstracesort
    
    1 a.ns.agreg.com 192.5.6.30       172800 A 213.253.22.210 ; root server
    1 a.ns.agreg.com 213.253.22.210   259200 A 213.253.22.210 ; authority 1
    1 a.ns.agreg.com 213.253.22.211   259200 A 213.253.22.210 ; authority 2
    
    1 b.ns.agreg.com 192.5.6.30       172800 A 213.253.22.211 ; root server
    1 b.ns.agreg.com 213.253.22.210   259200 A 213.253.22.211 ; authority 1
    1 b.ns.agreg.com 213.253.22.211   259200 A 213.253.22.211 ; authority 2
    
    glue . start            A 192.5.6.30
    glue . start            NS .
    
    glue agreg.com 192.5.6.30       NS a.ns.agreg.com
    glue agreg.com 213.253.22.210   NS a.ns.agreg.com
    glue agreg.com 213.253.22.211   NS a.ns.agreg.com
    glue agreg.com 192.5.6.30       NS b.ns.agreg.com
    glue agreg.com 213.253.22.210   NS b.ns.agreg.com
    glue agreg.com 213.253.22.211   NS b.ns.agreg.com
    
    glue a.ns.agreg.com 192.5.6.30       A 213.253.22.210
    glue a.ns.agreg.com 213.253.22.210   A 213.253.22.210
    glue a.ns.agreg.com 213.253.22.211   A 213.253.22.210
    
    glue b.ns.agreg.com 192.5.6.30       A 213.253.22.211
    glue b.ns.agreg.com 213.253.22.210   A 213.253.22.211
    glue b.ns.agreg.com 213.253.22.211   A 213.253.22.211
    [root@vaio root]#
    Yours is much longer because you are using out-of-bailiwick DNS servers - i.e. they are .net servers for a .com domain rather than .com
    Last edited by alexgreg; July 2nd, 2003 at 05:56 PM.
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    Alex,

    Godaddy said to wait another 24 hours to see what happens. So I'm going to revisit this tomorrow.

    As for what you mentioned about that NXDOMAIN, I haven't run into that concept yet (I'll look it up now after this post). You said that:

    park7.secureserver.net (64.202.161.138) and park8.secureserver.net (64.202.163.10) returned nxdomain when asked about your domain. Since those two are the authorities for fuzzybundles.com, DNS information for this domain won't be visible to the internet.
    Does that mean it will NEVER be visible to the internet? That would kind of defeat the purpose of registering. Is it that we're in some sort of limbo state still where park7 and park8 aren't quite ready to return full answers yet? (probably why godaddy seemed to imply that a little more time is needed)

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    Hmm, I guess I can't do anything about their use of the .net servers for the .com domains that people set up with them. Oh well. Congrats on your 1000th. It's like turning miles (km for you) on the odometer... :-)
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    I'm going to put this down for today to give the 24-hours benefit of the doubt. Tomorrow after lunch I'll see if anything has improved.

    Thanks for your help so far!

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    Does that mean it will NEVER be visible to the internet? That would kind of defeat the purpose of registering.
    It would, wouldn't it? Thankfully this isn't the case. All you have to do is get park[78].secureserver.net to provide authorative information for fuzzybundles.com. Or you could define new authorative servers for that domain if the former is impossible or impractical.

    Is it that we're in some sort of limbo state still where park7 and park8 aren't quite ready to return full answers yet? (probably why godaddy seemed to imply that a little more time is needed)
    This is possible. We shall give it some more time and see...
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    I have not read hardly anything of the above. Way too long. Instead, in glancing over it, I determined that you have problems with this domain, and that the problems are erratic according to alex. So here's how it looks to me currently.

    Time: 9:41 Eastern Time (GMT -0500)

    GTLD returns 2 name servers that supposedly host fuzzybundles.com

    http://www.dollardns.net/cgi-bin/dns...=ALL&submit=DS

    Both name servers accept and return a Zone Transfer request

    http://www.dollardns.net/cgi-bin/dns...axfr&submit=DS

    http://www.dollardns.net/cgi-bin/dns...axfr&submit=DS

    Resolution of fuzzlebundles.com works

    http://www.dollardns.net/cgi-bin/dns...lr=3&submit=DS

    Problems I have experienced while testing:

    both a.root-servers.com and the GTLD server timed out in their UDP response after 5 seconds a few times - erratic. Maybe it's my script, maybe not. But a windows based utility I wrote for DNS resolved it fine and quickly. Once also when I submitted a Zone Transfer request the result was a page with no content, which I happen to know is a bug when the script was disconnected by peer.

    But if the above links work, then, I suppose there is no problem.
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    Yeah, it's been long thread, but that's mostly because we ran into the issue of ns.fuzzybundles.com resolution. Most likely there was a delay with godaddy getting information propagated, as now fuzzybundles seems to appear on the internet.

    SO, after all that, ns.fuzzybundles.com seems to appear on the internet, so the original question I wrote about can be attacked, this time without ns.fuzzybundles.com propagation time issues getting into the way.

    However, I'm going to wait until monday for this just so that if we find more problems, I can tell godaddy that there have been a whole bunch of days that passed without any perturbation of the records for either ns.fuzzybundles.com nor djradiuspdx.com. That way if something still isn't right, I can *demand* that they find the root cause while I"m on the phone, because they can't push it off as "just wait 24 more hours" anymore.

    I'll refresh this thread at that point with my latest tries to have djradiuspdx.com end up with a successful lookup. For example, right now today (even with ns.fuzzybundles.com looking okay and after not touching anything at godaddy concerning djradiuspdx.com for 3 days), I still can't find djradiuspdx.com on the internet:

    ptdl052:>dig djradiuspdx.com +norec

    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> djradiuspdx.com +norec
    ;; global options: printcmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 15720
    ;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 4

    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;djradiuspdx.com. IN A

    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    com. 171484 IN NS B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com. 171484 IN NS C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com. 171484 IN NS D.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com. 171484 IN NS E.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com. 171484 IN NS F.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com. 171484 IN NS G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com. 171484 IN NS H.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com. 171484 IN NS I.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com. 171484 IN NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com. 171484 IN NS K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com. 171484 IN NS L.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com. 171484 IN NS M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    com. 171484 IN NS A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.

    ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
    J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 15380 IN A 192.48.79.30
    K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 15376 IN A 192.52.178.30
    L.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 15372 IN A 192.41.162.30
    M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 15368 IN A 192.55.83.30

    ;; Query time: 59 msec
    ;; SERVER: 137.102.151.30#53(137.102.151.30)
    ;; WHEN: Fri Jul 4 17:11:09 2003
    ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 321


    ptdl052:>dig djradiuspdx.com +norec @B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.

    ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> djradiuspdx.com +norec @B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
    ;; global options: printcmd
    ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
    Jeez, still problems getting djradiuspdx.com to even point to ns.fuzzybundles.com as the authority on djradiuspdx.com's IP.

    THis has all gotten really frustrating, but that's why I'm going to
    revisit on Monday.
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