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Old March 30th, 2007, 11:31 PM
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Graphic Question

What program is used to make 2d/3d sprites. Like in Ragnarok, or Maple Story? The game im working on or plan to work on is a 2d game with similar or identical graphic so i would like to know which program is good, Free and can Generate thoughs graphics.

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Old March 31st, 2007, 12:27 AM
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You can make sprites in paint for all it matters, it all depends on your skill on making them. Some good programs for them however are GIMP, GraphicsGale or Photoshop. Good luck!

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Oh ok i have heard of GIMP and im on the page rite now, im currently reading Some C++ Faqs. Would you recommend to try learning both GIMP and C++ at the same time or do one first then the other. im not easily confused just want to kno if they are anything similar in any of these. ......... Im sry if any of you think it Stupid what i just said im practially sleep typing and its hard to think straight at all.

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Old March 31st, 2007, 12:58 AM
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There's no relationship between GIMP and C++. GIMP is an image manipulation program. C++ is a programming language.

Are you trying to make a game? Rather than just jumping head first into an MMO or what not, be realistic and work your way up. It's like saying, I want to be an architect, so I'll start with a skyscraper first.

If you don't have programming experience, pick a programming language and start with basic programs. Basic, basic programs.
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a Basic Programming ? any Suggestions ... notepad, textpad .....?

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Old March 31st, 2007, 04:06 AM
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When I say basic programs, I mean programs that a) get you to learn the programming language of choice, and b) get you to learn programming concepts.

Example of screwing up A:
People in the C++ forum want to make GUIs, graphics, etc. Yet they have no clue how to program in C++ itself. Whether you pick C++, Ruby, Java, C#, whatever. You need to spend time learning the language before you start going anything fancy with it.

Example of screwing up B:
You jump into programming, and try to program a complex game. But because you never have programmed before, when we say, you could use a loop here, create a linked list there, reserve space for a buffer for each node in the graph, etc., you draw a blank. Bad move. No programming experience? You have to learn basic computer science concepts.

Seriously mate, it's nice that you want to get into programming to make an MMORPG, but if you're serious, you need to start by picking a programming language and learn how to program. You aren't even at the level of a basic programmer, and even intermediate programmers would be hard pressed to make a decent MMO.

Google, and search these forums for picking a programming language.
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Oh thats what you meant, rite now im studying C++ in a language. Is this good, easy hard ? whats a good Launguage to learn... i dont care much about the Difficulty. Just C programming is great enough. Interest me the most but hey what do i know rite ? .

Ok i Tried GIMP and its annoying me i do every step the Tutorial Says and its not never comes out the way it shows. anyone Know a good tutorial for GIMP?

Can GIMP make 3d models and Animate them? is it a good source to make video games from, like Character Creation, Map Designing and otherwise good Detailing.

Im Getting the hand of it, i followed the tutorials and i made this ...


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If you're still around...

C++ is powerful, but it is also hard. It's a complex language. If you're scouring about for a good language to pick, google and search on these forums for how to pick a programming language. I've posted numerous times, and other's have written countless times about the choices needed in working with a programming language. Feel free to ask about various points raised in those posts.

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No, 3D modeling is done with specific programs built for that purpose. GIMP, like Photoshop and others, are for 2D bitmap images only. There are free 3D modeling programs about, and Googling will get you a list of them. Personally, I work with Wings3D and Blender.

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You'll need a good 2D image editor. GIMP is just one of the possible choices. Note that you can't make do with just one program. You will need multiple programs. Example. 3D models mean actual modeling, but then you need to create textures for them. That's 2D work.

If you need to 3D work, you need a 3D modeler. You need the right tool for the right job.

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Should probably just go ahead and learn C++ as it is the langauge of choice for graphics programming.
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hey , whats a sprite? i keep hearing that thing.im planning to learn game programming too right now im learning c++ i i have a little experience with vbasic i think i can handle programming but
what scares me off is graphics not sure i can do that
any suggestions how to learn to make game graphics ?

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> hey , whats a sprite?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprite_(computer_graphics) (A 2D image basically).

> any suggestions how to learn to make game graphics ?

Yes. Make sure you know your choice of programming language well. Graphics programming is simply an application of your programming knowledge. If you find yourself struggling with core computer science concepts, or not able to understand how a syntactical construct works, it's a sign your knowledge is lacking.

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I think many, many games use DDS graphic files. You might want to look into that if you want to do some stuff.

Advice from before sticks, though. If you don't know what a sprite is, and more importantly, don't google it to find out, you shouldn't be using it. Might want to learn good old console app programming, and soak up the terminology and skills, before jumping into using any sorts of graphics.
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We'll I been down and out for a while away from the game programing cause i got addicted to lineage II *curses* i plan to go into computer sciences for college, and later get some extra experiences in scripting in C, and my partner in crime practices Java. Any of you know anything on that ?

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