March 6th, 2017, 01:16 PM
Need some SSI help
Hi all, it's been ages since I came here.
Anyway, I'll get right to it.
Long ago I learned how to use SSI to call up a page within a page. I only use this for navigation and it's been a fantastic way to save time editing only one page any time changes, additions, deletions to the site are made.
BUT…. it seems the ONLY way to get this to work… ALL my pages must be located in the root directory. Not in a sub folder. And I have tons of them.
Well… I've been agonizing over the prospect of rebuilding my monster of a site, but I need to make a store. I've decided to simply divide my site into two sections. Right from the index page will be the site as usual, and a link to my "store" and I am hoping to be able to put EVERYTHING into a sub directory named "store." But… last time I tried this, SSI won't work. Pages have to all end in SHTML and all must be in in the root directory. Not in a sub folder.
It's been a very long time since I first started using SSI though. Perhaps something has changed? Improved? Or is there some trick to allow me to design the navigation page, and call it up with SSI and do both from within the same sub directory?
March 11th, 2017, 09:07 AM
Couldn't you just use the absolute path to files instead of relative?
Originally Posted by artmaker
March 11th, 2017, 10:28 AM
No clue what absolute path vs relative means.
Right now, gonna put this whole thing on hold yet again. Just too much going on. Daughter on her way down, I have to drive her to the airport. Job sends them off to Canada for a week. All this while she's trying to close on a house. AND take two rather heady on line courses. LIttle frazzled.
My dog has to go in for surgery Monday and may not make it. She's old, liver issues. Might not handle the procedure. Her sister just had to be put down a few weeks ago. So I may be a basket case for awhile if she doesn't pull through.
Web stuff for now can wait.
BUT… I did find drag and drop software. Still need to download the free version. See if this is something I can work with. I also just found out there are pre made scripts to build web pages. Angelfire has a bunch and I'm sure with some digging there are more. I've been out of the loop far too long.
So I might not need to learn code from the bottom up again. I can figure out how to plug in links and images easy enough.
Will post again when I have real news.
March 11th, 2017, 03:49 PM
A simple Google search will quickly explain the difference. If you want to use SSI for your navigation, it will solve your problem.
Originally Posted by artmaker
Sorry to hear about the pooch. Good luck :-)
April 11th, 2017, 07:41 AM
On sites with encrypted Google loves
April 11th, 2017, 10:08 AM
I don't give a flyin rats behind what google loves. And I will not be a slave to constantly reading up on what google is doing now. Besides, go google "polymer clay canes" and my page, my dated page, filled with table tags and well over 100 images, and hasn't been updated in months, all things that should ding a site, still comes up on the first page of results. So following advice on what google likes and doesn't like is pointless.
Originally Posted by Western2
So. Update, Dog pulled through just fine. There won't be any cure for old age, but she's got her twinkle back, tail wags… all's well for now.
Daughter closed on her house so the frantic "will I get it" phase is over with.
I downloaded EverWeb to play with. Seems easy enough. Drag and drop web building. I can't upload anything until I buy it, which I would IF I can ever figure it out.
Here's the problem. They have a bank of video tutorials. FANTASTIC RIGHT? So I start from the beginning, first one, following along as they go, and not far in, "to create a second page click here," (guy scrolls to the
bottom of the screen where a row of tools is) and clicks the new page icon.
Well…. it seems with their last upgrade, they moved the tools. They must have also changed the icons. Moved to where who the F knows! I paused the video and spent an HOUR hunting and fishing for the damn tools.
Posted in their forums, "yea we moved tools to the top." Top of what? I don't see ANYTHING remotely resembling what the guy in the video points to. And when I post that on THEIR forums I get back snarky comments "maybe this isn't for you." Yea well maybe when some dim wit decided an "upgrade" means moving everything around then NOT "upgrading" the tutorials meant to teach people how to use it, maybe that person should find another line of work.
Meanwhile every time I launch the thing and think hey, I mastered Photoshop. I actually taught college level classes in Photoshop. This can't be that hard, and yet I kill hours trying to do the simplest things, I get overwhelmed with a flood of frustration and that's that. I have to just walk away from the computer for awhile.
I tried to find other drag and drop software but sadly this one seems to be the best.
And here I sit. Big fat roadblock. I've been mastering pen turning, got tons of stuff to sell, and my site that I pay for right now is useless to me.
Just majorly frustrated no end here. Really tempted to just build my store the dated ancient way with table tags peppering the whole page. THAT I know how to do. And hey, it works.
But I know this is dated. All that extra code isn't needed anymore. I'd hate to add hundreds of listings only to have to redo it all later.
I'm just not into learning computer code all over again. Drag and drop would be nice. IF I could figure it out.
(GEES people, if you sell software, and make tutorials, then CHANGE the software, you need to CHANGE the tutorials at the same time. Ya think?)
April 11th, 2017, 03:40 PM
You can get far with Drag and drop (wysiwyg) editor, but if you want some (decent) control of the output, you will have to learn/catch up with modern programming.
From you initially post, it sounds like the issue rely with the SSI.
Maybe you can find an editor which support this.
Based on the program you have tried, it sounds like you are on a Mac, so maybe some of these program might be helpful: https://www.google.dk/search?q=html+...th+SSI+support
April 11th, 2017, 08:57 PM
Those all look like code editors. Back to me learning an array of codes from scratch. HTML that I know is dated. Got a little bit into HTML5, not far, still need to fill the gaps with CSS which I know NOTHING about.
Back to the fact I DON'T HAVE THE PATIENCE TO TEACH MYSELF CODE!!!!!
Besides, my web host provides these sorts of things. Again it' assuming I know enough code to begin with. These are great tools to catch little mistakes but sure won't let me start from scratch.
I sure wish the bone heads who upgraded (and changed) EverWeb would have known people need to see these changes in their tutorials. Drag and drop is the way to go. IF I can find one that makes a lick of sense.
I'm just frustrated is all. I wish I could take a class somewhere but not around me.
April 12th, 2017, 07:08 AM
Maybe you should consider using a Content Management System (CMS). Some hosts support one-click-installation of these.
Most CMS system include several pre-build standard design template, which - if good enough - let you concentrate on the content itself.
Some of the more popular/known CMS systems are Drupal and Joomla, but many others does exists.
April 12th, 2017, 12:32 PM
Ok, gotta run but I'll google that later, figure out what your talking about. If it means changing hosts than no.