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Old February 19th, 2002, 09:12 AM
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Arrow Which Linux?

Which Linux is better suited for a newbee but still has functionality?

I am looking to get one at the following address:
http://linux.com/learn/getlinux/

but I don't know which I should get. I do know a few things about Linux but not a whole lot.

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Old February 19th, 2002, 09:56 AM
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Slackware

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Old March 1st, 2002, 06:28 PM
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get slackware man. version 3.5 doesnt even need a partition. It's a great way to get used to it. Then you figure out what you want that it doesnt have and look at your options =)

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Old March 5th, 2002, 11:09 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Slackware one of the most complicated Linux distros available?

For newbies, SuSE and Red Hat are good, I think.

I personally prefer SuSE, but you cannot download SuSE in a format which is easily installable - you can only download all the files separately. In the case of Red Hat, you just need to download the 2 ISO files, burn them onto a CD and you're all set.


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Old March 5th, 2002, 11:13 AM
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In the case of SuSE, you just download the three boot floppy images, write them on (surprise!) floppies and boot, then let the setup program (YaST) do the download. The advantage is that while you still have (almost) the choice of the Professional version, you download only what you select for installation.

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No. Imagine "and"s between the lines. For me, M$ exists. What about you?

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I'm quite sure that SuSE has some ISO-files too...
At least they have had it...

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Old March 6th, 2002, 11:17 PM
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SuSE only offers ISOs for their Evaluation version which runs directly from CD. They have stopped offering ISOs of the real distro years ago.

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I have always found it easiest to do an install directly from the net with RH. Is this available for the others such as SuSE or Slackware?

BTW, why do you want to hack around with linux if you are running FreeBSD? Not trying to start a war, I am just curious.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Slackware one of the most complicated Linux distros available?

For newbies, SuSE and Red Hat are good, I think.

I personally prefer SuSE, but you cannot download SuSE in a format which is easily installable - you can only download all the files separately. In the case of Red Hat, you just need to download the 2 ISO files, burn them onto a CD and you're all set.


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Old March 7th, 2002, 11:19 AM
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I have always found it easiest to do an install directly from the net with RH. Is this available for the others such as SuSE or Slackware?
Yes, for SuSE at least.

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Hey don't forget some of us still use 56k modems Even updating KDE through YaST2 is a pain; I have to disconnect, reconnect to the Net and leave it completely free to be able to *just* get it all in one go if I'm lucky, cuz often it refuses to resume. Pfft.

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Unhappy The question remains

I thought this discussion might help a newbie. But it got complicated. I found that Red Hat is the most popular and used Linux Ver(Rectify me if I am wrong. I am not GOD). Secondly I found Red Hat with a book, Red Hat Linux 7.2 Bible. I detected all but not my Internal modem. I had to borrow my friend's external modem to make sure i was right and it did detected it on first shot. Bravo! But still I am unable to connect to net. I did have Mandrake Linux 8 CD which I got from A magazine but eventually found that every linux app is based on RPM. So why not all dummies like me start with Red Hat( ) and then make their own . Cheer Up

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Old March 11th, 2002, 02:46 PM
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Re: The question remains

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I thought this discussion might help a newbie. But it got complicated.

This is because the discussed matter is complicated.
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I found that Red Hat is the most popular and used Linux Ver(Rectify me if I am wrong. I am not GOD).

Most used, perhaps. As for popularity, this is not the same as usage ... and I see a lot more RH problems on the net than e. g. SuSE problems.
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Secondly I found Red Hat with a book, Red Hat Linux 7.2 Bible.

That gets religious ... there's a very nice manual in the SuSE distro and I think there are good books for others. So this is not a criterion.
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I detected all but not my Internal modem. I had to borrow my friend's external modem to make sure i was right and it did detected it on first shot. Bravo!

Not a RH-only thing. (Slightly buggy) autodetection is common nowadays.
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I [...] eventually found that every linux app is based on RPM.

This statement does not make any sense. Btw, there are whole distros out there (Debian, Slackware) that get on without RPM.
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So why not all dummies like me start with Red Hat( ) and then make their own

Because there are better distros for Newbies with less bugs and more newbie-friendliness?
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Who else should be blamed? The RH bible?

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Manuals are both an important point and an invalid point. Good installation manuals are very useful for new users, and I would say SuSE comes with an excellent one (I can't speak for RedHat). As for other manuals, you can get plenty of good books which will apply equally to all distributions, though yes SuSE manuals are good.

To me, what makes a good newbie distribution is one that makes sense to the newbie when installing, that goes out of its way to ease the user's first steps into using the OS, that gives tools to make standard use easier than a Slackware-esque distro, and that will continue to work without problems for years to come.

SuSE had a good installation program, though the partitioning step is infuriating if you want to modify the settings, or if Windows isn't installed yet. It was very poor, I thought, at easing the user into using the system -- after the installation book there was a "SuSE Tour" which was about as much use as the Windows tour. I've been writing my own guide for my girlfriend to help her move from Windows to GNU/Linux because I really don't think SuSE's effort is up to scratch.

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Unhappy So this Means I am Wrong

This means I was wrong in choosing RH7.2
That makes me feel ahsamed in this forum. Every one is asking me to shift to suse. OK I will try to find the Suse CDs. I am not a rich guy who can hang up his one and only phone line to download the Mighty Installations from net usinmg ye old 28Kbps connection (I am not lucky )
SO does Suse means Best Linux and RH means Good Linux

Plz Don't kill me I am really newbie and still unable to configure my sound card.

Plz Rectify me I am really not GOD or GOOD at Linux.

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