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Old June 15th, 2004, 09:19 AM
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Exclamation Complex multi-network problem

Hello to everyone reading this.

Basically, I have a cable modem downstairs, with a wireless router attached to it. From this router i have two compaq XP machines, both working perfectly via a netgear wireless USB adapter each.

Now, using a cross-over ethernet cable, i have made a connection between one of my Compaq PCs, and an older home-built windows 98 Pc. The network connection works fine.

However, I am unable to get the internet on the windows 98 PC.

That is the brief problem - do i need to set up a proxy - is it that the router and the compaq are too complex for the windows 98 PC to see through.

Just wondering if anyone could at least give me advice on what the problem is, let alone how to begin to work out a solution.


Thanks in advance,

Andrew Loughran

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Old June 15th, 2004, 09:51 AM
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enable ICS or enable routing on the xp machine it will not route by default.

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Old June 15th, 2004, 09:56 AM
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sorry for my ignorance, but how do i enable routing on the XP machine. ICS and network bridging screw up my existing wireless internet connection

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Old June 15th, 2004, 09:58 AM
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Old June 15th, 2004, 10:10 AM
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Routing is now enabled on the XP machine, but the win98 machine now won't see it through ping either - however, i'm only 95% sure it could see it through ping before - it could always see it through network neighbourhood and access it.

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Old June 15th, 2004, 10:14 AM
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the 98 machine cant see what? basicly from my understanding you want to have a 98 machine go into a xp machine NIC and out its Wireless interface and get to the internet correct? give the 98 machine a different network address then what is on the wireless as well as the NIC on the xp machine. since you are not using ICS you are not NATing and your router will not know how to get to the new network segment and will need a static route added to the XP machine.
so lets say your router and xp wireless is on 192.168.1.x/24 put the NIC and 98 on 192.168.2.x/24. now when the router recieves a packet from the internet to the 192.168.2.x network it will need to know how to get there since it is not directly connected. you should be able to but a static route in that says to get to 192.168.2.x send to 192.168.1.x (the ip of the xp wireless)

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right. the router is 192.168.0.1, compaq (wireless adapter) is 192.168.0.3, compaq (NIC) is 192.168.1.2 and win98 is 192.168.1.3.

What do I do?

thanks for your time

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Old June 15th, 2004, 10:21 AM
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the 98 machine needs a default route to 192.168.1.2, the router needs a static route for 192.168.1.x to go to 192.168.0.3

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Old June 15th, 2004, 10:23 AM
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still a bit complex i'm afraid - what is a default route and a static route, and where
do i set them up?

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Old June 15th, 2004, 10:27 AM
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default route on windows 98 is the default gateway setting where you give it an IP address. the router im assuming has a web interface click on the tab that say static routes.

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Old June 15th, 2004, 10:33 AM
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i've got 4 boxes in Router setup:
Destination IP Address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Subnet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Gateway IP Address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Metric xxx

Which IP in which please?

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Old June 15th, 2004, 10:42 AM
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destination IP 192.168.1.0
subnet 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.0.3
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Old June 15th, 2004, 10:49 AM
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done all that, and some variations on the gateway IP address to the IP of the NIC to see if any of it would work but unfortunately it did not. I have reset everything back to as you have just stated on the router. any other suggestions. I don't seem to be able to ping still - that may have some effect

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Old June 15th, 2004, 11:05 AM
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now that the router has a static back and the xp is set to route and the 98 has a default gateway to the xp machine, the xp machine has a default gateway to the router, can you ping the router by ip address? can you ping the xp machine?

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Old June 15th, 2004, 12:42 PM
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can ping xp from win98 and vice versa, but cannot ping the router

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