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    Hello,
    My first post here and I need a question or two answered. I am graphic designer who is finally biting the bullet and learning how to program code. PHP is very appealing, it seems much easier than Perl and look like a good language for a newbie.

    Anyways I am having trouble finding good tutorials. My only real knowledge is a little bit of forms, and DevShed's PHP 101 tutorial (which was GREAT by the way). The rest of the tutorials I find expect me to already know the language while I'm learning it.. it gets confusing.

    So how/why/where did you learn to program in PHP? Book reviews welcome
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    I was the same (just DW and Photoshop) 1 1/2 years ago and found this thing called 'PHP'. I'd hacked a few other peoples perl scripts but wasn't brave enough to write anything other than
    print "I'm scared world";
    off my own back

    I learnt by downloading the PHP manual offline, installing apache/php/mysql on my windows machine of the time (there is a *really* cool script for making this easy on zend.com) and by feeling stupid for asking dumb questions on the php mailing list

    Now though, you've got a few really good sites like this one and I'd also recommend phpbuilder.com, the Leon Atkinson book is excellent for a beginner (buy it through PHP.net so they get the commision)

    I also found it easier to actually have an application (however small) that I wanted to build, this way I could apply my knowledge rather than constantly bumming code snippets off other people. I my experience it didn't hurt to re-invent the wheel just once or twice

    Man you made the right choice, stick with it
    you know it makes sense

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    Thanks a lot! Hopefully I turn out to be like you in the future Right now I just use photoshop and DW, heh.

    Hopefully what I hear is true: Once I learn one language the rest aren't too hard
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    I am sorry if this is a really stupid question, but..
    Am I able to install PHP or Perl on my computer and just test scripts off of my C Drive?

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    Not without a webserver and PHP interpreter.

    Assuming you run windows use this http://zend.com/go_link.php?id=170&what=apps

    I used it the other day to install on some bods laptop so they could run a website offline. It used to take an hour or so of fiddling to get it to work, using this it took me 1/2 hour tops to get php4, MySQL and apache 1.3.12

    If you run *nix, you'll need to install apache, mysql and php --with-mysql as a bare minimum

    hth

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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana,Arial,Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bealers:
    I used it the other day to install on some bods laptop so they could run a website offline. It used to take an hour or so of fiddling to get it to work, using this it took me 1/2 hour tops to get php4, MySQL and apache 1.3.12

    [/quote]

    I've set it up on so many Windows boxes that I just created my own installer. Since I figured other folks could use it too, I released it. Cuts set up time to <5 minutes once you download it. Includes Apache/MySQL/PHP/PHPMyAdmin all configured to work. Just drop your scripts into htdocs and they work. http://download.sourceforge.net/phpt...triadsetup.zip



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    Cool, I'll try that if I need to use windows again

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    http://download.sourceforge.net/phpt...triadsetup.zip

    I used it last night to install php et al on a friends laptop....how easy?

    Highly recommended

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