Help Wanted..website Designer

We need help creating a Dating Website, with as many goodies as possible: Member log in, Create member log in, Automatic billing for members, self photo upload, Audio,Text,Video Chat rooms, message board,and all extras.
We are a new Starting Company, that is looking for the help of someone interested in taking this as a project to include it in their portfolio, perhaps someone that is just starting like us, you do not need to have an exsisting portfolio, and massive experience, we are willing to help you if you help us. We can give you testimonials and add your link to our Dating site, plus we will to pay you a 10% commission on monthly gross, as long as you keep providing satisfactory service to our website.
Take a look at a few Dating websites for example; www.passion.com, look at how many registered members they have. Multiply that by the monthly dues, and 10% of that looks pretty good!

Thanks for your interest,
Nelly Ojeda
Cristina Vasquez
illussions01@yahoo.com

Do you realize how much work a site with "as many goodies as possible" is? You have got to be ****ing kidding! Video chat? automated billing? My god, companies charge in the tens of thousands or more for that!! The hosting costs alone to support video chat is beyond the budget of someone who is unwilling to pay their designer.

Not to mention the fact that you are banking on your site doing well as far as some sort of intrinsic payment to your hypothetical designer goes. If you're not willing to pay cash upfront to someone, how do you plan to promote your website? There are dozens of well publicized dating sites that sink hundreds a month into their advertizing. How will you compete? Word of mouth? Forum based promotion? It just doesn't work... Not to the degree you're expecting.

Sorry to be a bit harsh, but you are 1 out of MANY of people I see requesting major services in exchange for a measly link and an imaginary 10% of future profits. Actually, you're asking way more than I have ever seen in a situation like this.

How sad the way you think, no wonder your name is what it is.
You must have gotten jacked before, or have been the jacker.
I realize how much work it is, and I put in my text that I'm not looking for a PRO like you L.O.L! ....KEEP MOVING with your bad energy.

I will do it with most of these options. On two conditions.

1. I webmaster the entire site and have exlusive access to the code, of which is copyright to me

2. I make 95% of the profits, since you'd be doing just about nothing.

That just shows you have no idea how much work a project like that is. I used to work fulltime as a programming team developing websites. One person developing a site like this would take at least 6 months to a year, and this is for a professional programmer. There is no way someone who is not a professional will be able to do all of that. The skills needed to do the things you are asking for are very broad. To make that site a reality you would need a team of programmers working on it, and I don't see how a group or company like that would work for free without some guaranteed returns.

My bad energy? Alright, my brotha'

Let me take it down a notch and try to explain to you a few things. When I said that companies charge X ammount for something, I was trying to put it into context for you. People who are not "Pros" don't program that kind of stuff. You don't just start hitting the tutorials one day and then start hashing out video teleconferencing scripts the next. That's enterprize class work. You'll be hard pressed to find a person "looking for portfolio work" who is going to have A: The knowhow B: The time C: The motivation to take on a project like this for a pat on the back and a breadcrust of 10% for the continuance of long-term provision of "satisfactory service". It's completely devoid of logic, and you're a maniac, expecting to get someone to do 90% of the work, and keep 10% of the profit (and only when there IS/IF there is profit). That is the anthises of business ethics.

So take a check on the attitude, friend.

Once again! We are not looking for PROS! and we are not expecting a DYNAMIC Website, we need the help of someone that can do as much as possible for our website, Perhaps a webdesigner student, in return of a residual income. We are aware that you don't know us as well as we don't know you, so there is the TRUST factor, So we are looking for someone that lives in Los Angeles California, so we can meet an sign a notarized agreement on 10% comission.
Obviously all of you unfortunately do not live in Hollywood CA, to understand about working for credits/portfolio/resume/internship and payment according to what a film produces financially. If DREAMWORKS asked you to do something for them for FREE you would jump to it right? Of course we are talking about DREAMWORKS!...OOOps Do you even know who they are?
Ebay wasn't who they are now, when they started! Did you know the webdesigner that build their site didn't get paid upfront? That tells you everything. May God Bless you, for having such a small mentality, and no hopes of life.

P.S. About the copyrights & 95% I have one thing to say to you Buy your own website, that would solve YOUR problem!

DO NOT RESPOND IF THIS IS NOT FOR YOU! TIERD OF RESPONDING TO UNFIT ALIENS, TWO IS ENOUGH THE THIRD ONE OF YOU ALIENS WILL BE THE THIRD STRIKE...YOU'RE OUT!

I ain't your Brotha! and I'm not the one with a negative name.
Obviuosly you are one of those people that think you have to be a brain surgeon to accomplish something. You don't know how a business works obviously, If you are an employee you get paid the least, the owner makes the biggest cut, so if you want to get paid the most then put up your own company and stop bitchin! If you are as big as you say you are you wouldn't be doing logos for free in exchange of client testimonials. So don't be a hypocryte. Take your responses elsewhere, This isn't for you, so why worry!

That comparison is worthless because there is a big difference between you and Dreamworks (a 3D graphics/movie production company). Is that they are a REAL company, they have HUGE industry noteriety, they have LOTS assets to back themselves up in a contract and they have a GOOD track record (that means there is easily predictable guarantee that anything they do will have return on it because it has consistantly in the past, in case you didn't pick up the industry term).

You will not fill this position under these terms and have anything come of it. Period. So I suggest, you revise your possibly non existant business plan and try again.

Thanks for coming out!

EDIT: Oh, and PS. I am the registered CEO of an S Corporation (filed via IRS form 2553 Election), which is my federally registerd company Angry Lizard Interactive, Inc. So don't tell me what I do and do not know about being in the position of running a business.

I was holding back, but I have to say you are a real morron,
that doesn't know anything stuck in North Carolina, for your information when you go work for any production Co. including DREAMWORKS as an intern you do not sign any contract, again if you are so good and worth the two cents you wouldn't be doing logos for FREE in return of client testimonials, and how sad that this world has people like you, because you obviously are not a people person, there are better ways to approach a post like ours. Send me your personal e-mail, so when our site blows up I will remember to e-mail you.

P.S. How sad that you didn't even give it a thought
(thank God).. that maybe we are just looking for someone positive and new to webdesign that we want to help, and we have more than enough money, and investors behind this project to advertise and make it blow up. To think that you work for an actual webdesign company, scares us, because we wouldn't want to get stuck with a unprofessional person like you.

Man you just insulted the very kind of activity you are asking other people to do for you. Please try to remember what it is you're talking about in the first place.

You've totaly got the TOTM nailed this month.

1. If you are looking for someone possibly new to web design you will not get what you are asking for. I don't know you or angrylizard (but his site IS awesome), but I have to agree with him that these are not exactly tasks for someone new to web design to handle. For example, a person can easily go out and read a tutorial about member logins, but chances are, it will not be efficient for a site as big as yours (granted that it does expand like you predict). For a site like match.com and other dating sites, these aren't "let's go out and get space from a webhost, yada yada" sites. These are "let's put thousands and thousands of dollars each month into bandwidth costs and we are going to need a HELL of a cluster to handle millions of hits a day".

If you had a student or new developer make this site, I can guarantee (I will fly out to CA and sign a contact with you saying that i guarantee this too) that your site will be overloaded with hits and will go belly up.

2. I will be more than happy to make a site of this caliber for you under the following conditions: you pay up front in whole (I don't care about Hollywood and other standards; this is my bid on your project and if you don't like it, look elsewhere). In addition to paying up front in whole, I also retain all rights to design and code (you know, like in Hollywood... if you purchase a movie, do you own the copyright? no. So if I make a site for you, and you purchase it, you are LICENSING it, you will not own it).

Let one of your investors or use some of your "more than enough" money to pay me, and I will deliver.

As angrylizard said, there is a world of difference between you and Dreamworks. Do you have any background on your company? Does your company even have a name?

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you're not going to find a designer. And even if you do find someone that can through together something in Photoshop, you're not going to find a coder that can write actual, efficent backend code for free, regardless of your offer. I can go up to a crack dealer and get a testimonial. That means nothing to me, or possibly anyone else. There's a difference between John Doe from an unknown dating company giving me a testimonial or the New York Times giving me a testimonial.

Once again, I pray this is the last time you need to hear this mr.CEO doing FREE LOGOS for only client testimonials...NOT CASH UPFRONT! L.O.L.! This isn't for you, so get a life and MOVE ON..... I'm glad to know there is unprofessional people like you actually working for a web design co, that we all have to watch out for (OH Yeah, your the CEO) and whatever whatever else you said you were. It's sad to know that your not a helping hand, and your just out for the money!

EVERYONE WATCH OUT FOR NEGATIVE PEOPLE LIKE THIS!

P.S. where is your personal e-mail?