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Old August 29th, 2005, 12:11 AM
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Google and hidden divs

It appears that Google has thanked me for my fancy blog system at our site (click signature) that takes advantage of a div that can be hidden and opened with a click without reloading the page.

I realize people may be using hidden divs for spam, but there should be a way to legitimately use these without getting penalized. Dammit, all pages with the blog bar got wiped out of Google altogether!

How annoying that legitimate use of technology is thwarted by something like this!

A good morning's rant, that is.

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Old August 29th, 2005, 12:37 AM
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And I find that another website has gone way down in the ranking due to a simple hidden div opened by clicking an envelope figure, saying "Click this to send to a friend", which then opens a form for sending to a friend! How annoying is that!

And here's the rant that was sent to the Google support.

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[CC'd: Help for Webmasters / Site Disappeared - In case these go to different departments.]

While hidden divs have been used for spamming, they also have a very legitimate usage in providing content on demand without loading new pages by means of javascript changing the div's property. Google takes advantage of the said technology in their services, such as GMail.

However, it appears that Google penalizes sites for any and all hidden tags. We've recently noticed this occur on at least two sites, one having a larger block of text available on demand, the other a mere "Send this page to a friend" form.

Please revise your algorithms to detect hidden divs that are available on demand. If necessary, I would be more than happy to provide you with the necessary information on how to detect the existence of means for opening a given hidden div on a page, should you not have the information readily at your disposal.

If possible, once you have integrated the said suggestion into your spam prevention algorithms, please provide information on how you detect legitimate hidden divs to enable us to employ the technology in accordance with your criteria.

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This issue also came up in another recent thread. I am cross posting (have mercy), as this is the search engine area and people concerned over this would do well to find it here, as well.

I have posted a thread at Google Groups / Google Problems concerning this. Drop in and post your comments. (Direct URL.)

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