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Old March 18th, 2006, 04:19 AM
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Google ,sitemaps and other stuff
Being new to all of this search engine stuff I found, that through the software I use for my site , there was away to get google to read my pages using a newish function called a google sitemap. This is alright but I do not know what google are doing with the info that the bots gather as at the moment google seems to have cached old sites that I was once using but I never submitted them to any search engine.

I can only imagine that they were picked up through the ISP I was using as this was were my site ran from. So at the moment my current site info is not up to date on google

Further to this I have been using a software (free of course ) which is called Web CEO. Its not bad in that it can submit to a lot of different engines and has other useful functions such as site ranking etc. I started to use one part of it where it checks the keywords and checks the occurrence on the site. It started going on about Keyword weight and also mentioned that I should put the keywords on everypage in the <H1-H6> tags. If I did this would I not upset the rules of the search engines?
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Old March 18th, 2006, 06:34 AM
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I can't speak to what your software meant about putting the keywords on every page. If it means to plaster something like this all over your site:
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<h1>classic cars, muscle cars, vintage cars, collecting classic cars, vintage car collecting</h1>
<h2>vintage car collecting, muscle cars, collecting classic cars, classic cars, vintage cars, collecting muscle cars</h2>

Then yes, that violates the spirirt of both what the SEs are looking for and the semantic meaning of the header tags.

But if it means that you should write natural-sounding on-topic headlines and subheads for your pages that contain the page's targeted keywords, and put those headings and subheads into appropriate header tags,then that is exactly correct:
On your classic car page:
Code:
<h1>Collecting classic cars</h1>
Blah blah blah copy about collecting classic cars here
<h2>What is a vintage car?</h2>
Blah blah copy discussing vintage cars

On your muscle car page
Code:
<h1>Collecting muscle cars</h1>
Blah blah muscle car copy here
<h2>The muscle car era</h2>
Talk about the era of muscle cars here

And so forth. That not only wouldn't upset the SEs -- it would be good for them. It helps them figure out what each page is about and how it should rank those pages in the search results based on each page's topic.
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Old March 18th, 2006, 10:03 AM
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Google claims that their site map helps a web sites that have their own site mas optimized by G standarts to be indexed easier. That's not true of course. I have a very popular web site about New York that is Top in Yahoo and MSN and Google doesn't rank it among Top 500 on same keywords at all. The site is not spamming one and the content is unique.

I can suggest you to write meaningful tags - Titles and Description and to start marketing your web site. Don't pay attention to Search Engines. Only sites listed in 1st page and some form the second benefit from search results. It is better to find popular internet channels related to your business and to work with them.

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Old March 19th, 2006, 04:15 AM
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Cheers for the input so far . With regards the <Hx> tags, do these appear on the page or are they hidden text?. From your suggestion does this mean that if I have a guide ,lets says on Linux, the title would be <title> A Guide to Linux <title> do I then repeat this remark as follows : <h1>A Guide to Linux </h1> or should I put something slightly different like : <h1> All about Linux </h1> ?
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The <Hx> tags are visible, and they go in the body of your page. They serve essentially the same function of the main headline and subheads that you might find in a book chapter or report. The h1 tag can be the exact wording as the title (which is what appears in the browser's title bar), or they can be slightly different. There have been long discussions debating whether the title and h1 tag should be the same or different. The W3 says this about titles:
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Authors should use the TITLE element to identify the contents of a document. Since users often consult documents out of context, authors should provide context-rich titles. Thus, instead of a title such as "Introduction", which doesn't provide much contextual background, authors should supply a title such as "Introduction to Medieval Bee-Keeping" instead.

And this about headers:
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A heading element briefly describes the topic of the section it introduces. Heading information may be used by user agents, for example, to construct a table of contents for a document automatically.

There are six levels of headings in HTML with H1 as the most important and H6 as the least.

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As you are asking about whether or not Hx tags appear on the page, I recommend that you learn some basic HTML and CSS before you start to worry about SEO. SEO is about writing good HTML.
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Google claims that their site map helps a web sites that have their own site mas optimized by G standarts to be indexed easier. That's not true of course. I have a very popular web site about New York that is Top in Yahoo and MSN and Google doesn't rank it among Top 500 on same keywords at all. The site is not spamming one and the content is unique.

I can suggest you to write meaningful tags - Titles and Description and to start marketing your web site. Don't pay attention to Search Engines. Only sites listed in 1st page and some form the second benefit from search results. It is better to find popular internet channels related to your business and to work with them.

cheers


When you state that I should start marketing my site if it not submitted to search engines how else can I do this?
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