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Old April 25th, 2006, 05:22 PM
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Search engines and Dynamic websites
Hello,
In my site i have created dynamic keywords, descriptions, titles and everything. I even created a robot.txt file. But for some reason when i do a search on google for a keyword (a club name, since my site is about nightclub industry), all these other sites that i KNOW get less hits than me show up and mine doesnt :S I've submitted my site to google cause when i do a search for my own name in " " it comes up!
The question i have is I read somewhere that if you URLs have variables in them that the BOTS don't work well with it. For example all the links in my site have the following format:
http://www.hype1.com/clubDetail.php...ronto&venueID=9

*That's my actual site! so feel free to take a look and give me more pointers on improving SOE!*

this is a simple URL to go to a profile for a certain club in a certain city. The values change depending on which city and which venue the user goes to. So what steps should i take to make my site appear on first page of google?

Thank you very much
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Old April 25th, 2006, 06:06 PM
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Search Google (how ironic, no?) for "seo friendly URLs"

FYI: (and hint) mod_rewrite questions belong in the Apache forum.
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Search Google (how ironic, no?) for "seo friendly URLs"

FYI: (and hint) mod_rewrite questions belong in the Apache forum.


Hello,
But in order for me to do URL rewirting (I'm using IIS btw) i would have to re-code my whole site basically to pass the Club Name in the URL instead of the ID and a bunch of other stuff. So i wsa just curious, does URL re-writing make THAT much of a difference? do the benefits out number the amount of time i have to spend recoding!?
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... does URL re-writing make THAT much of a difference?
It's a large part of it, yes.
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Google doesn't mind dynamic sites as long as you're not passing session ID's around in the query string. But I would recommend rewriting the site with an IIS mod_rewrite, it will help alot.

Also, you need to concentrate on getting some back links, google is only reporting 1 backlink for your site. Your PR is 2, which doesn't always mean that you won't get ranked highly in search engines, but it's a good indicator of site popularity.
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Old April 25th, 2006, 08:50 PM
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You could try something without mod_rewrite as well

Make a page called toronto.php and include this in it:

PHP Code:
<?
$_GET['city'] = "toronto";
include 'default.php';
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Also, I've noticed you have &sid= in your urls, google will avoid these like the plague as it could get stuck in a loop while indexing your site.
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Google doesn't mind dynamic sites as long as you're not passing session ID's around in the query string. But I would recommend rewriting the site with an IIS mod_rewrite, it will help alot.

Also, you need to concentrate on getting some back links, google is only reporting 1 backlink for your site. Your PR is 2, which doesn't always mean that you won't get ranked highly in search engines, but it's a good indicator of site popularity.


Thanks a lot for the help. how long does it usually take for your PR to increase after you implement different things? for example if I remove the SID from the URL and also do URL rewriting, how long would it take for my rank to go up!?

also i went to http://pr.blogflux.com/ to check the rank, and i have another site that basically gets NO HITS. comapred to my currecnt one that gets a lot of hits and the ranking for my other one is 3 and for hype1 its only 2 :S

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bump!!!
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PR (page rank) isn't everything, but it does play some part in the SEO process. The only way to get your PR up is to get inbound links, i.e. other sites linking to you.
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how long does it usually take for your PR to increase after you implement different things? for example if I remove the SID from the URL and also do URL rewriting, how long would it take for my rank to go up!?


Anywhere from a week to a year. Maybe longer.
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While using Joomla I discovered a apache module mod_Rewrite that will allow you to fool the internet into thinking that you are not using get variables. By utilizing it you can allow search engines to properly index your site.

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Hello,
In my site i have created dynamic keywords, descriptions, titles and everything. I even created a robot.txt file. But for some reason when i do a search on google for a keyword (a club name, since my site is about nightclub industry), all these other sites that i KNOW get less hits than me show up and mine doesnt :S I've submitted my site to google cause when i do a search for my own name in " " it comes up!
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http://www.hype1.com/clubDetail.php?city=toronto&venueID=9

*That's my actual site! so feel free to take a look and give me more pointers on improving SOE!*

this is a simple URL to go to a profile for a certain club in a certain city. The values change depending on which city and which venue the user goes to. So what steps should i take to make my site appear on first page of google?

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