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Old March 9th, 2008, 10:43 PM
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Visio, visio, visio.
Think out side the box my freind. This is a good idea if expanded on.

First place the content on your site and make sure it gets indexed.

Next rewrite 30% of the content, change the structure of it as well, if it makes sense, and submit that to the article directories. That is now different and you haven't submitted your own - just similar content.

Meaning both are now unquie. You get good unquie content on your site and links back as well. Best of both worlds

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Great, now you've done twice the work but aren't getting twice the reward. The links from those rewritten articles are no better then directory submissions but far more work. The ROI is way to low for this to be considered a smart or effective way to get backlinks.

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I totally disagree.
Re-writting the content is 20 mins work, if that, for a medium size article if you are a fast typer. So 40 mins a week and it beats watching re-runs of your favorite TV programme.

Helps with indexing and gets you some links, and hopefully traffic, for relatively small amount of work. Again think out side the box.

Practice your typing skills or get a re-writter in.

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I totally disagree.
Re-writting the content is 20 mins work, if that, for a medium size article if you are a fast typer. So 40 mins a week and it beats watching re-runs of your favorite TV programme.

Helps with indexing and gets you some links, and hopefully traffic, for relatively small amount of work. Again think out side the box.

Practice your typing skills or get a re-writter in.

Jaza
But the ROI is still way to low to justify the time you spend. Not only are the links you get very low quality but as the search engines improve their duplicate content filters you risk having that rewritten content removed anyway. You claim it beats watching reruns. Well, better time spent would be to write another new unique article for your own website.

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I do agree that the benefit would be low.

You wouldn't have both removed if at least 30% is different.
It depend's on how well you do it.

The reason this is benfitial to me is I can only write article's when I get the chance. Some times an article in my area can take 20mins sometimes it can take 2 hours some times I have 3 days where I can write, some times I'm lucky to get 1 day every other week.

I always have back up articles in my DB that I don't add straight away to my site. So If I get a busy month I can add them consistently for my newsletter, or just to keep new pages being added at a steady pace.

If for example I added 10 articles 1 day, to my newsletter first, and then couldn't write again for another 2-3 weeks which has been known to happen the newsletter would become old and just be similar for 2 weeks.

Also if it's added to my site first users could read it first then get bored with my newsletter. As I get a nice bit of return business from my newsletter I can't afford for it to get old.

So If I change the articles in a very short space of time and make them totally different, again depending on the article may take 40mins or it may take 20 mins depending on it's length and complexity. It's a quick way for me to get a lot of low class links.

Granted they are not great, that said there are a load of them. I also see a very little bit of traffic from submitting. around 0.7% per month. I'm in the process of setting more in depth tracking up to see how many convert and to try to exploit this further.

So as I do see traffic from them, granted at the moment I'm unsure to how effective it is for my main macro action(the sale), I might as well make the content given different from my sites to get a few more links in the process.

I agree this isn't for every one but if you do submit articles change them, especially if your article has not been indexed on your site yet. It will stop you getting penalized for duplicate content.

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I agree this isn't for every one but if you do submit articles change them, especially if your article has not been indexed on your site yet. It will stop you getting penalized for duplicate content.
But why would you want it indexed on another site as opposed to yours? Wouldn't you rather have the links that the article generates to go directly to the article on your page? Instead of to another website and then to your page? Especially when that link to your page from the article directory is diluted greatly? If you have so little time to write articles would writing unique articles that no else has be a better use of time then rewriting articles that offer so little benefit? See where I am going with this?

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I do see where you are going.

I think you misread though. What I was saying is if you submit articles and place the same one on your site. You may be penalized for not having your article indexed first.

This way you wont as both articles are different.

To me this is better than writing a separate article, or starting a new article I can not finish for a week and getting no links back in the mean time.

It doesn't take that long in the great scheme of things.

I do agree getting the link to a separate site would be madness.

But the extra traffic I get is again worth it because if I didn't submit I wouldn't get it, granted I don't have proof they convert or to what ratio.

I suppose you could say - yeah but you could write a article and get ranked for a keyword you weren't expecting and get more traffic from the SERP's. Maybe I could But at the moment I get more links, granted not great, as well as traffic.

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I totally disagree.
Re-writting the content is 20 mins work, if that, for a medium size article if you are a fast typer. So 40 mins a week and it beats watching re-runs of your favorite TV programme.

Helps with indexing and gets you some links, and hopefully traffic, for relatively small amount of work. Again think out side the box.

Practice your typing skills or get a re-writter in.

Jaza


What will happen if somebody steals your article and publishes it on 100 different article/BLOG websites. ??

These article websites have no mechanism to check whether article is original or not

We have seen several instances where our useful articles were copied to other websites / blogs/forums.

Ultimately we stopped publishing any articles or promoting any of them

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What will happen if somebody steals your article and publishes it on 100 different article/BLOG websites. ??

These article websites have no mechanism to check whether article is original or not

We have seen several instances where our useful articles were copied to other websites / blogs/forums.

Ultimately we stopped publishing any articles or promoting any of them


Google has explained how they can tell who the original owner is. They're very good at it. The sites that steal the content will be filtered out as opposed to the original site losing its content.

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