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Old April 9th, 2008, 10:24 PM
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Still pr 1???

why is my site still a pagerank 1? i added tons of back links and i have a whole reciprocal linking section http://www.viportals.com/index.php?params=links/

i hope i dont have to change it to display the actual links instead of using a php link to count the outs... no idea how to count outs otherwise. any ideas?

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Old April 10th, 2008, 07:03 AM
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Hi,
i have gone through your site and pr of your site is 0 in google. but that means not your site will contain the pr-1 for ever. if you are in SEO then i would like to say that consistency is key and don't get desperate.

please make a thorough analysis of your site and you will come to know the problems with your site. only one thing i would like to say that optimize your site by giving 1st priority to visitors and then search engines.


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why is my site still a pagerank 1? i added tons of back links and i have a whole reciprocal linking section http://www.viportals.com/index.php?params=links/

i hope i dont have to change it to display the actual links instead of using a php link to count the outs... no idea how to count outs otherwise. any ideas?

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Old April 11th, 2008, 10:28 PM
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alright, but i need specific examples and ways to make my site better.

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Hi,
OK fine, few things i would like to share with you regarding your on page. let us take an example of your left menu

left menu: your left menu has been started with login, search, featured game, top VIPs, VIP portal statistics. But your left menu should be started with your key products that you have done much bellow after VIP portal statistics. So you can make some alteration in left menu

News: you have mentioned the news in the body and the letters are also very small. Rather than keeping these news in the body you should try to make a news section, which can be kept at extreme right side.

Fonts: fonts are very small and it will be better if you can increase the font size, so that every body can read the text easily.

These are only few things about your site. Also this is very essential to bring some good back links(relevant) for your website to increase it's back links.

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Old April 14th, 2008, 09:04 AM
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great advice. thanks a lot.

however, since it is a game site, don't you think i should focus less on the text? right now it is at 11, should i increase to 12? 13?

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Google should not care about font size - only the actual text.
Your users may have thoughts on it though.
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so google doesnt care but my users do? so should i make it 12? whats the normal?

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Hi,
Better to make the font size 12 and this is the normal. if you use a large no.of text in your site then no one will be interested to stick in your site. As this is a game site so you can make it beautiful with good images and balanced text. Don't use only text or only images. make a balance of these two.



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great advice. thanks a lot.

however, since it is a game site, don't you think i should focus less on the text? right now it is at 11, should i increase to 12? 13?

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Hi,

what you say is absolutely right and i do agree with you, but if your text is not easy for visitors to read due to small fonts then don't you think it will add an adverse effect on your e-commerce site?

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alright, awesome. thanks for the help so far guys.

now, what else is there that must be done to my website?

i am adding it to social bookmarking websites now, and i am curious as to whether to link to them in my Affiliated Links section or just put little icons on every page. any ideas on that? any other ideas on my site?

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hi,

yes you can keep.


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alright, awesome. thanks for the help so far guys.

now, what else is there that must be done to my website?

i am adding it to social bookmarking websites now, and i am curious as to whether to link to them in my Affiliated Links section or just put little icons on every page. any ideas on that? any other ideas on my site?

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Old April 17th, 2008, 12:22 AM
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alright. i added the list of social bookmarking icons in my sponsors section.

any other ideas for increasing my PR or just making my site better?

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Old April 17th, 2008, 12:28 PM
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well the sponsors appears on the games page and home page. you think i should add it somewhere else?

ps i made the text size 12, and i must admit you guys were SO rught, it looks 100x better.

EDIT: question!

see on the left side i have smaller menu boxes? the thing is, say for Best VIPortals Games, or Popular, or Newest, the text goes over 1 line and it looks really ugly. is there a way to indent it if it goes over one line? do you think i should just change them to <ol> and somehow indent the second lines of <li>s?

ALSO, i forget what it was called, but somebody mentioned using tags that are more literal, so instead of <div> for a paragraph, use <p>. i know this is asking a lot, but where on my site can i improve on that, because i feel it is a good idea?

i think the <ol> instead of my own numbers is a good start, but where else can i improve?

(sum1 please confirm that <ol> is a good idea, because i need to change lots of code to make it like that and don't want to be wrong) =)

EDIT AGAIN: i have decided to tell you all this, even though it makes me look horrible and noobish, i think i need to get this out. my whole site is a frame

correcting this is going to be the most difficult thing i have ever done, and i'm not sure why i need to, but you guys say its bad. any1 want to give me the slightest idea on how to correct this and why its bad?

(this post is getting pretty long, thanks if you read the whole thing!)

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