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Old July 10th, 2008, 03:49 PM
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Website name in ALL page titles - bad?

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I have a directory which displays the name of my website in the title on all pages. Does this mean I would be penalized by Google for repetitive content?

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Old July 10th, 2008, 03:53 PM
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Well you really shouldn't use the same titles. If you have for example

index page: Toolman :: Home

register page: Toolman :: Register

Would it be so much work you couldn't change around a word or two? Title tags are just used to give it the name on search engines: The text which search engines display for you to click. The actual content of the page is where you can't be repetitive. You also must remember to add new content each day in order for search engines such as Google to think your website isn't dead or dying. Keep it alive. As to your question, it's not necessarily bad but you should rethink about putting in the extra 1-3 minutes in changing the title tags.

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Old July 11th, 2008, 09:04 AM
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Toolman. I'm assuming you mean that you use the website title followed by a description of the page, not just the title on its own? If you are using just the website as the title then definitely change. The page Title is hugely important to search engines as well as users, so use it for a meaningful description.

For interior pages I often use the article name or main page heading as the page title.
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Old August 5th, 2008, 10:29 AM
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Hi there,

I have a directory which displays the name of my website in the title on all pages. Does this mean I would be penalized by Google for repetitive content?

Thanks


Its not recommended but you will not get penalized

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Old August 6th, 2008, 02:52 AM
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You will not penalized by search engine but you should use diffrent title for each page using your website name.

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I have a directory which displays the name of my website in the title on all pages. Does this mean I would be penalized by Google for repetitive content?

Thanks

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Old August 6th, 2008, 07:51 AM
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You will not penalized by search engine but you should use diffrent title for each page using your website name.


This would be just as much for the users of the website, other than SEO

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Old August 16th, 2008, 03:53 AM
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So, we shouldn't put title tag in header.php?
What do you guys think?

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Hi tool man for first off the title element is very important and is one of the remaining on page factors that is still taken into account. Ideally you want this density to be close to 100% of your main keyword or your keywords alternatives -

I don't mean porn, porn, porn, porn, sex, sex, sex.

As that will get you penalized for spamming.

But just porn or ideally
Asian porn as that is more specific to the page all about porn that is Asian. Does that make sense?

By adding more useless characters for example "keyword - your websiteName"

In this example you have 2 space characters, a hyphen and your domain name.

you are in fact watering down the title element and it's effectiveness in the Search Engine.

Secondly you have a directory so if you have empty pages all the title element will be is your domain name. Now 2 or more pages like this will cause you an issue as it is known as duplicate content and waters down your site equity.

Or if your keyword is small a lot of the time again your domain name will be the main factor, if the pages are agin similar this is another issue.

Now is it good to get rid of the domain or just use your main keyword in the title element?
From an SEO point of view this needs to be 100% keyword density.

From a usability point of view this depends.
Nielson research recommends you put the domain name first as if some one bookmarks your site it is indexed alphabetically and thus more easy to find by a returning customer.

Other usability research cant remember where I read this one recommends you make it inviting to a site visitor to encourage click throughs.

It's up to you but I find that short to the point titles are the best so go with the keyword only take on it.

But whatever you do each one needs to be unique.

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So, we shouldn't put title tag in header.php?

It depends on what you mean there is no such thing as a title tag.
There is a title attribute that goes something like this in the body of a html/php etc... file -
PHP Code:
<acronym title="United Kingdom">UK</acronym

Or there is the title element that goes in the head tag so something like -
PHP Code:
<head>
<
title>Main keyword goes here</title>
</
head

If you mean the title element well that again depends. Is the header.php file the header for your page, so it contains things like doctype, html, head, javascript, css etc....]

or is it your page header that goes in the body which contain you global navigation, logo etc...

If your header.php include contains html, and head tags then yes the title element should go in there.

Hope that helps.
Jaz

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Old September 16th, 2008, 06:58 AM
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Its really a very bad approach that using the website name or using the same title in all pages of a website and also don't try to promote your website with website name promote it with keywords.
<title>focused keywords promotional words comes here.</title>

like if your website is web design and development related then try to add like "web design, website design and development company" keywords in your website title tag.
with this way you have to gain more chances to get ranked high in search engines.

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Old September 17th, 2008, 11:39 AM
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You will not be penaltized but it is much better for you to have all the directory pages with descriptive Meta tags. Just place in Meta tags this information that users can find on the page.
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Old October 1st, 2008, 12:12 PM
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I am using somethng like

page title | web name

If the page title is long enough, the web name after the "|" will be discarded by boots anyway, but it will still make it into descriptions, etc. See www. maxi-pedia.com to see what I am talking about if you like.

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Old October 1st, 2008, 01:26 PM
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IMO, one of, if not the most important SEO factors is what goes in the <title></title> tags...

The others are <h1> tags and how relative it and the title are to the content of the page...

in other words...don't waste your title tags on your domain name...and unless the content of your pages is redundant...then neither should be the page titles...

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Old October 1st, 2008, 04:35 PM
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Just a note on the side... if you log into the Google Adsense website and then get into the Analytics section, they have one page there which lists all your pages that have duplicate page titles. Neat thing.

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Hi,

you are not going to penalize for this, but it is recommended to use different titles in different pages. by doing this you can concentrate on different keywords in your title rather than same type of title in different pages. It will also help you to keep your site in top position in keyword search

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