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Old October 20th, 2005, 11:41 AM
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Hey everyone,

I have been a SEO for some time now and I usually understand why the search engine is not picking up a site the way it should. But damn this one has me stumped! See what you guys think about it and what needs to change to have google, yahoo, and MSN do what they do best. Now I do have them hitting our site and coming back ever 5 days, I do have a robots.txt file and they are reading it. I do have all the appropriate META tags and whatnot. But why does it still not pull anything?

Site: http://www.50marketing.com
Try to find it on google and others. Is there something I am missing?

Thanks,
Chad R. Smith
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Old October 26th, 2005, 11:24 PM
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For a Quick reply, I am going to say backlinks.

for google you are showing 5. Of those 5 none have any relavance to Marketing. As I'm sure you know, it's important to get the content of a backlink to match the domain you are running.

for a site:url - Yahoo came up with no results....
for a link:url -> google came up with 5 results.

For some reason MSN has 84 of your pages indexed, and google has none...

Are you in DMOZ and the yahoo dirs?

How new is this site? You could be sandboxed...

This page has no text based links to keyword terms in the main body. This page might (and I do mean might) be viewed as a splash page. For as much as I know, Google doesn't penalize nor praise these type of pages.

I am no expert, but it seems like the problems with no indexed content with google would be a start to the problems.

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Hey thanks for the reply.

How do you check the backlinks in Google?
What is DMOZ and no we aren't in any yahoo drives yet. This site is approx. 2 months old and I don't think it would be sandboxed but it just might. I never thought about that. How long does the sandbox time frame last for google?

I think that everything isn't easy to be read on the site. I know the backgrounds do affect the score, but I don't think our text is hard to read. I could be wrong. We are changing it as I write this so it can be searched better.

Thanks for the reply and any information would be helpful!

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Old October 27th, 2005, 11:50 AM
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These questions do not give me confidence in your SEO skills. You can't find your site in google. what keywords are you optimizing for? check the word 'marketing' in google..see how much competition there is...I'm willing to bet it's around 699,000,000.

Check this site out.

There are lots of good tidbits that may help you out along the way.
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Bad post, and hopefully wouldn't happen again.

Sorry,
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Okay...even tho i got a pretty harsh response (i wasn't trying to be a dink in the first place...it just suprises me you don't know about checking links etc...), i'll throw in my 2 cents.

My point about 'marketing', is that there is a TON of competition for that keyword...you need to beef up RELEVANT and QUALITY backlinks.

Secondly, is content. Keep adding fresh, keyword rich and relevant content, giving the bots something new to chow down on.

PPC is another option...but i'm guessing would get pricey for words like 'web design' and 'marketing'.

OH yeah, and ditch image-based navigation...spiders can't follow that either.

Anyways, best of luck to ya!

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The site has way too little text on the front page.
But it is what someone said earlier on.
You need more backlinks to the site.

That will get it indexed and cached in google.

The site is not ideal seo wise or even design wise and if you are wanting decent search engine traffic you should think about your stratedgy a little more.

Btw,, spiders can follow image navigation.

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All right I am sorry.

I was just in a tizzy and instead of seeing it as a means of helping it seemed you were trying to just point out that I am dumb. Which, yes I have been known to be stupid in the past but this subject I just don't know much about.

I have been a SEO for two years but not worked with sites that are starting from scratch. I am not a full time SEO heck I am barely a part timer. I have another job as a web programmer (PHP, MySQL, LDAP mainly) and wrote in a few magazines. I just don't know much about the SEO thing and especially starting from scratch. I do know that we don't have enough text on the front page and we tried to change that today.

As far as I am aware that spiders can travel on image navigation. Just don't use JS or Flash. They can't follow that. If you do use them you are encouraged to use a site map instead of relying on the flash. That is all I know about that subject.

Once again I am sorry, and hopefully I can get my reputation on here higher. I appologize again for my outburst and it will hopefully not happen again. I didn't know that you can see the agree/disagree thing. Neat feature, just wish I knew that before I did it.

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LOL,,
We all make mistakes.

The spiders can follow js links apparently.
I have yet to see solid proof of it.

You should have a sitemap anyway as all sites should.

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Mick thanks for the reply. It has been a VERY rough week.

We are located in PA and man there was a massive storm this week and knocked out servers, routers, T1's, the whole nine yards. I got that message today and was just in a nasty mood. Should have never wrote back. I made a mistake and now my rep is trashed.

Truth is, I never really had to DO anything to the sites that I was in charge of SEOing. They all straightened themselves out in a few weeks and the bosses were happy. I looked good when I never really learned anything. Now this company that I am the Director of Web Development for is asking me to do stuff that I never learned in the first place. I should have thought before I wrote or went to think about what he said instead of making a stupid remark.

Yeah I have heard that they can follow JS, but I haven't seen it work either. That's why I have been told and read that it's just not adviseable to do it like that.

We always have a site map. I never knew the value in them until I started with my current job 4 months ago. Now I read more and more about them I understand what their job function is in a site. I just was so used to doing them and had no idea WHY.

Thanks for the post, and anything else you can notice? I really do need to get that site towards the top. I am looking to focus in on when they type 50 marketing. Anything else would just be a bonus.

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