Page 3 - Petition to remove

That's because Javascript programmers are almost never called Javascript programmers; their titles are usually something like "Web Programmer", "Enterprise Developer", or "Middleware Analyst". Even more than most languages, Javascript does not exist in isolation; it is intimately connected to HTML and the Document Object Model semantics, just as VBScript and PHP are. While there are standalone Javascript interpreters for scripting, they are a very minor part of the language's use; nearly all Javascript programming is client-side web development (with the bulk of the rest going to server-side web work).

Similarly, for many years you rarely saw an ad for a Perl Developer position; Perl was (and still is) primarily a tool of System Administration. It wasn't until there was a huge base of Perl code to be maintained and extended that a demand for dedicated Perl hackers arose. Today, Python and Ruby programming are still most often subsumed into some other formal position, even if coding in one of those languages is 90% or more of the job.

C# and VB are exactly the same language

In .NET they are... In older versions of C# and VB there's quite a bit of diffrence...

What in earths name? Where is the world going to? C# is object orientated. VB was not last time I used it. Did that change with VB.NET?
If so then:
Oops guess I wasn't well informed, told people they were quite different. Hadn't noticed VB changed that much (cept for the fact it compiles to MSIL).

vb.net has been called vb.not by many "serious" vb programmers in the past
--Ax

what I think he ment is that they complie to exactly the same thing so you can write with either and it works out the same

I voted to leave it, as it belongs more in the C area than in .NET. I think it should probably get its own forum, similar to VB.
Mind you most of the questions we get seem to be about the libraries rather than the language, so maybe I am wrong - too late to change my vote now

Hmm, my 2 cents today seems to be not worth the paper its not printed on.

It seems to me that the 1st option is the stronger, if the dark could choose again then it would be 20 vs 6 and 12 people not caring.
Of the 6 against, there is JCaputo which votes against, he as head admin should be neutral in my opinion
So that would be 20 vs 5.
Still not inclined? So be it, it's your forum, it's a good forum either way.

Ok, here's my thoughts on the subject...


1) 25 votes is nowhere near indicative of all of our members. Thats just silliness.

2) C# is not specific to .NET only. People are now writing C# code on Linux, and we may be seeing more compilers for it in the future. Hence, I dont feel it belongs shoved into the .NET forums permanently.

That being said, I believe there are only two intelligent options at this time:

1) Leave things as they are.
2) Create a special c# forum.

In my opinion, based on what Ive seen, #1 is the more intelligent option at the time.

I would say, however, that the mods of the two forums would do well to enforce some "guidelines" between the two forums. If someone posts a c# thread in the c forums which has to do with .NET, it should be moved to the .NET forum. And vice versa, if a generic c# question is posted to the .NET forums, its moved the other way.

Comments? Flames?

Do you see more votes? Hell, do you see how many times this suggestion forum gets viewed. What would you like? 500 votes with 500 views?
I agree with your second point though, with Mono, things are changing.
Leaving things as they are is IMO waiting till things get broken.

/MBirchmeier: Disagrees (but not enough for rep--)

Let the mods make their decisions... if this was a democracy I doubt the belts would still be here .

besides, it's small in the grand scheme of things... 2 forums instead of 3 (or 2 reshuffled) Isn't really that big of a deal is it?

And if/when it 'breaks' so to speak it gets fixed....

-MBirchmeier

I tend to only check the .net forum for c# questions because i only know c# and dont know C at all. They're different enough when you get to the detail of answering specific questions.
I'd back seperating c# from the C forum, but only because i think that's where the poster would probably get the better response that way.