Totally inacceptable behavior of some mods.

I am suffering on dev shed of the behavior of some moderators.

I post a request of help ....... and suddenly I find out that my message was simply deleted......

I check my private messages, and there is nothing from a moderator explaining why he or she deleted my message and what was wrong with it ...... and what I should have done .....

that is so frustrating and so much of a power abuse.

as members, don't we deserve to be helped rather than censured ????

tell us what is wrong so that we can learn ...... if you care of course....

Can you post examples of abuse?

Right now, you're claims are lacking substance.

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If you don't like it, you can always leave.
Plus, chances are, there was a reason for your posts to be deleted (or moved to another forum perhaps?).
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If you're following the forum rules and guidelines, yes. If not, then you can expect to have threads deleted.

Edit: In fact, I'm guessing you're bitching about the six month old thread that you attached your question to which had absolutely NO relevance to your question ( "cool php tricks" ). Yes, it was split off into another thread.

Bitching? is this acceptable language in dev shed?

If you split the topic, why did not you tell me ?

Do you want me to repeat the same mistake?

Do you prefer to keep running behind the members and moderating or that they learn from your wise advice and improve ??

The topic was about open base_dir....... and my question was about this same directive..... how is it unrelated to you?

If it wasn't, then the swear filter would catch it.



I didn't, but I did report it.



Not at all, but it should have been fairly obvious that a) the thread had been split ( you would have been subscribed to the new one automatically ), and b) you should have realised that that was not acceptable.



Some people want to learn, others don't. Everyone has to play by the rules.



The topic was "cool php tricks":



and open_basedir was NOT mentioned ONCE ( which shows you didn't even BOTHER to read the thread before posting in it ). The term "BASE_DIR" appears, but only because one of the posts defines it, and it has NOTHING to do with open_basedir.

--Simon

How come? I only did not find my post..... How can I know why you did to it?



don't be harsh on me because "others don't".



if you split and move without even telling me, how can I learn to avoid the same mistake in the future?



It was the only search result I got. I thought the poster who can define base_dir and use it in a php trick might be able to help me.

In all of the above, any reader can see that I am just trying to learn ..... do I deserve your harsh language? have you been fair to me?

If you go into your thread subscriptions, you'll see a link to the thread you started (at least, I'm pretty sure it's enabled by default; not certain though).

We're not trying to be harsh on you, and we apologize if you see our actions in such a manner. We're simply trying to explain to you what happened to your thread and answer questions you may have about our moderation actions. Though it may sometimes seem cold, it's generally due to the cut-through-the-crap direct style of communications that many of us who have been on these for a long time have with each other and the community as a whole.

The only language that may have been harsh is the "bitching" used by Simon. Please note that this is, in many cultures, acceptable in informal conversations such as this, however. In all honesty, I do believe you have been treated fairly. In fact, I think Simon was being rather polite about it, as you blatantly accused the moderation team of "censuring" [sic] you; instead of first searching for your thread in the forums or simply wording your issue more politely.

For example: consider and contrast the following two questions which ask the same thing. While the first is very polite and succinct, the second could be construed as very rude and improper.

1. I posted a thread here in such-and-such forum whose title was "foo bar question about baz," but now I cannot find it. I think one of the moderators must have moved it, but I do not know where, and a search results in nothing helpful. Would someone please point me to it? Thanks.

2. What the frick? I posted a thread for help and you deleted it?? That's not very nice! Where the heck is it now?

I, speaking of my own opinion (which may not necessarily be that of the moderation team as a whole without further discussion amongst them), hope you understand this and will from this point and further treat the moderation team with similar respect with which we make every effort to give our users and each other. Thanks.

When you are logged in it will say "logged in as username" if you click the username hyperlink it will display your user profile. Roughly in the middle of that page will be this information:


Join Date: date
Posts
Total Posts: n (n posts per day)
link: Find all posts by username
link: Find all threads started by username

If you click either of those two links you will see all the threads (or the 500 most recent) that you a. replied to or b. started, respectively. In this way you can easily track down your thread activity even if it has been moved or split by a moderator.

Moderators do not delete posts except for violating rules, such as spamming or inflamatory posting.

Cheers

- tim

Since I'm the one that split your thread, I guess I should jump in

Here's how it works: If you revived an old thread as a brand new user (less than 10 posts), I would split it and reply by telling you to read the rules and not revive old threads. However, you should have already read those rules and/or know not to do this (I assume), so I simply split the thread. The idea is that you would notice your thread was split (as mentioned, the board should have subscribed you to the newly created thread) and think, "oops, I remember now, I should have started a new thread." 95% of people pick up on this w/o any further moderator interaction; the other 5% do it again, in which case I notify them then.

I moderate a lot of threads on any given day. 95% of the users who started those threads see the moderation action, interpret it correctly, and learn what they need to do next time w/o me PMing them or replying to their thread. In most cases, they're the only one that needs to know anything has even been done, and what's been done is usually obvious, as it is in this case. Doing it this way reduces the number of PMs (I rarely PM) and moderation posts I have to take the time to make and increases my time to help others with their problems.

If I replied in the split, you'd be complaining about me making a public example out of you.

thank you very much for this. I appreciate your help.