Suggestions & Feedback
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me
Go Back   Dev Shed ForumsForum InformationSuggestions & Feedback

Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread Dev Shed Forums Sponsor:
Get inside! Sample the range of functionality easily built with JMSL Library for Time Series Data Analysis, Heat Maps, Portfolio Optimization, Monte Carlo Simulation, Stock Price Charting and more. Download Now!
  #1  
Old July 10th, 2005, 09:57 PM
DevShedTroll DevShedTroll is offline
Permanently Banned
Dev Shed Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1 DevShedTroll User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 8 m 6 sec
Warnings Level: 10
Number of bans: 1
Reputation Power: 0
What happened to my posts?

Really.

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old July 10th, 2005, 10:03 PM
SimonGreenhill's Avatar
SimonGreenhill SimonGreenhill is offline
(retired)
Dev Shed God 11th Plane (10000 - 10499 posts)
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Laboratory
Posts: 10,101 SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)SimonGreenhill User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)  Folding Points: 4925 Folding Title: Novice Folder
Time spent in forums: 3 Months 3 Weeks 5 h 49 m 4 sec
Reputation Power: 1331
Facebook
Over the past few days there have been a few temporary user bans due to a general increase in trolling. These will be lifted automatically at seven days after the time of ban.

Why was this done? A large number of complaints about the amount of garbage posted here have been raised, and we are currently working on some rules and guidelines for this forum to make it a accessible for all forum users. These guidelines will be posted in the next few days.

As for your posts, there is a general clean up going on. Please bear with us. The deletions are NOT personal, the lounge mods are just cleaning up a few off-topic posts and troll threads.

Also - remember that multiple user accounts are NOT permitted. They will be banned on sight.

--Simon
Comments on this post
geniusgoalie agrees: Thanks for keeping us updated
minoria agrees: Keep the forum clean

Last edited by SimonGreenhill : July 10th, 2005 at 10:16 PM.

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old July 10th, 2005, 10:56 PM
B-Con's Avatar
B-Con B-Con is offline
Crypto-Con
Dev Shed God 4th Plane (6500 - 6999 posts)
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: UC Davis
Posts: 6,647 B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Month 5 Days 17 h 55 m 33 sec
Reputation Power: 852
Quote:
Originally Posted by SimonGreenhill
Also - remember that multiple user accounts are NOT permitted. They will be banned on sight.

Would this be a bad time to mention ITADopes?
__________________
- "Cryptographically secure linear feedback shift register based stream ciphers" -- a phrase that'll get any party started.
- Why know the ordinary when you can understand the extraordinary?


- Sponsor my caffeine addiction! (36.70 USD recieved so far -- Latest donor: Mark Foxvog
)

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old July 10th, 2005, 11:04 PM
Markisdee's Avatar
Markisdee Markisdee is offline
****ing running
Dev Shed Regular (2000 - 2499 posts)
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not typing in a location. Damn.
Posts: 2,021 Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Weeks 2 Days 1 h 32 m 9 sec
Reputation Power: 218
Send a message via AIM to Markisdee
Hmm, I have a few disputes with this, even before the official release is released, so to speak.

1.) Temporary banning long-time users for "trolling" without specific examples of posts (i.e., use of the new warning system) leads to discrepencies in mods' opinions.
2.) The "general cleanup" is also not being done correctly, in my opinion. Deleting threads and posts out of the blue is very harsh censorship. It takes away from the community. While some threads (milestone for example) do derve to be locked, many others don't.
3.) I feel a lot of hypocrisy around this issue. Some mods, such as Sep and M.H seem to be the biggest anti-troll advocates, yet are often the biggest trolls themselves. (Same goes for multiple user accounts rule.)

I'm just suprised DevShedTroll wasn't taken. Hmm.

@Simon: Thanks for communicating when other mods refuse to. I like how you're handling it, but overall, I feel it is not being handled well. The community seems to be getting worse as it tries to be made better.
__________________
Free Willy and the Whalers

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganoosh
another thing you can do it set the player size to heigth="1" width="1" and use it as a period

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old July 10th, 2005, 11:11 PM
B-Con's Avatar
B-Con B-Con is offline
Crypto-Con
Dev Shed God 4th Plane (6500 - 6999 posts)
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: UC Davis
Posts: 6,647 B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Month 5 Days 17 h 55 m 33 sec
Reputation Power: 852
Quote:
@Simon: Thanks for communicating when other mods refuse to. I like how you're handling it, but overall, I feel it is not being handled well. The community seems to be getting worse as it tries to be made better.

Get used to it. From Internet forums to local community gatherings, when things get shifted, often-times, things get worse first -- temporarily....

I say just give it a week till the admins issue their statement. Things may be a tad awkward till then, but it'll be worth it. Then, once we see the new standards, everybody who is happy (dedicated members) stays, and everyone who is unhappy (non-committed trolls) leaves. (Assuming the new rules are reasonable, of course. If the third clause of the new rule book requires us to have to offer sacrifices to Simon 3 times a day, well..... )

Granted this initial transition looks to prove awkward, but give it a week. We've been here for months/years, what's a week of slightly vague "inconsistancy"? That is, if it even takes a full week. JC might issue a release by tomorrow, making it a mere 3-day run....

Plus, such an action like this often proves to be a sort of cleansing fire. The hot-tempered, non-loyal people are more likely to just leave, but the dedicated, long-time members are less-likely to be driven off.....

Give it a couple days, in the mean time, there's no reason that we can't continue to enjoy the Lounge
Comments on this post
codergeek42 agrees: Well said.
M.Hirsch agrees: Certain trolls ARE reasonable. ... sometimes

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old July 10th, 2005, 11:18 PM
Markisdee's Avatar
Markisdee Markisdee is offline
****ing running
Dev Shed Regular (2000 - 2499 posts)
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not typing in a location. Damn.
Posts: 2,021 Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)Markisdee User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Weeks 2 Days 1 h 32 m 9 sec
Reputation Power: 218
Send a message via AIM to Markisdee
Quote:
Originally Posted by B-Con
there's no reason that we can't continue to enjoy the Lounge
Well, there are a few. Getting random bans, threads deleted, etc.

But I'm definately going to wait it out.

If I don't like what I see, there's always netbits.

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old July 10th, 2005, 11:39 PM
jharnois's Avatar
jharnois jharnois is offline
mod_dev_shed
Dev Shed God 19th Plane (14000 - 14499 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 14,299 jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level)jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level)jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level)jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level)jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level)jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level)jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level)jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level)jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level)jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level)jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level)jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level)jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level)jharnois User rank is Major General (70000 - 90000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Month 1 Week 2 Days 1 h 54 m 17 sec
Reputation Power: 760
In addition to what Simon has already said, please be aware that all mods, not just Lounge mods, are discussing this issue, and that JC is monitoring everything too.

Threads/posts that are being deleted prior to the guideline release are being deleted b/c it's already been decided by enough mods that it should happen, and b/c this task will take the longest.

The Lounge specific guidelines haven't been released b/c we're still finalizing them, and we don't want to release something until the majority of mods have had a chance to make recommendations.
Comments on this post
geniusgoalie agrees: Thanks for keeping us updated
B-Con agrees!
LinuxPenguin agrees: what geniusgoalie said...
aitken325i agrees!

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old July 11th, 2005, 12:08 AM
SammyK's Avatar
SammyK SammyK is offline
Happy Monkey
Dev Shed Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: UK (University of Kentucky)
Posts: 1,810 SammyK User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)SammyK User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)SammyK User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)SammyK User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)SammyK User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)SammyK User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Days 22 h 49 m 14 sec
Reputation Power: 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markisdee
2.) The "general cleanup" is also not being done correctly, in my opinion. Deleting threads and posts out of the blue is very harsh censorship. It takes away from the community. While some threads (milestone for example) do derve to be locked, many others don't.

So what do you suggest we do? Explain every delete we make? That would take a lifetime! But seriously, we are totally open to seuggestion, like you said, this is a community and we (mods/admins) are here to keep the community healthy. Please post your suggestions.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old July 11th, 2005, 12:10 AM
LinuxPenguin's Avatar
LinuxPenguin LinuxPenguin is offline
fork while true;
Dev Shed God 1st Plane (5500 - 5999 posts)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: England, UK
Posts: 5,535 LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)LinuxPenguin User rank is General (90000 - 100000 Reputation Level)  Folding Points: 11590 Folding Title: Novice Folder
Time spent in forums: 1 Month 3 Weeks 1 Day 19 h 23 m 58 sec
Reputation Power: 1008
Quote:
Originally Posted by SammyK
So what do you suggest we do? Explain every delete we make? That would take a lifetime! But seriously, we are totally open to seuggestion, like you said, this is a community and we (mods/admins) are here to keep the community healthy. Please post your suggestions.
Are you just killing every post in sight or is there a method?

I've just watched a thread that stayed on topic be killed and I can't seem to see the logic to the selection method.

If you could clarify that please, I'd be grateful.

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old July 11th, 2005, 12:12 AM
B-Con's Avatar
B-Con B-Con is offline
Crypto-Con
Dev Shed God 4th Plane (6500 - 6999 posts)
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: UC Davis
Posts: 6,647 B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level)B-Con User rank is Lieutenant General (80000 - 90000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Month 5 Days 17 h 55 m 33 sec
Reputation Power: 852
Quote:
Originally Posted by SammyK
So what do you suggest we do? Explain every delete we make? That would take a lifetime! But seriously, we are totally open to seuggestion, like you said, this is a community and we (mods/admins) are here to keep the community healthy. Please post your suggestions.
just keep at it and do your job. Everything should be explained by the Admins in due time....

Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old July 11th, 2005, 12:16 AM
SammyK's Avatar
SammyK SammyK is offline
Happy Monkey
Dev Shed Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: UK (University of Kentucky)
Posts: 1,810 SammyK User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)SammyK User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)SammyK User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)SammyK User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)SammyK User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)SammyK User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Days 22 h 49 m 14 sec
Reputation Power: 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by LinuxPenguin
I've just watched a thread that stayed on topic be killed and I can't seem to see the logic to the selection method.

Threads that talk about fungus growing in weird places on people's bodies or starting up another political debate are examples of threads that have nothing to do with the interests of developers, rather little kids who have nothing to do with their time. Threads like these get hacked. Not trying to be harsh, but that's just how it is.
Comments on this post
B-Con agrees: I have this weird spot on my arm.... I think its growing.... should I see a doctor?

Reply With Quote