Front Page / Dreamweaver

I have recently started Using Dream weaver. Prior to that I have used FrontPage.

If I make and alteration to a web page in Dream weaver and PUT it (what a stupid term for publishing, why they can't get their act together and try to use a common term) Sorry side tracking.

Anyway after altering and PUTing the alterations from Dream Weaver to my site and verifying the changes are successful on the URL. I then open FrontPage and merely look at the said page and it is unchanged despite being in the same directory. Now when I go to the site URL after closing Front page the changes have been reversed.??? Any ideas Why

Bana

"Put" and "get" are the correct technical terms in ftping. Any ftp program you will use that hasn't been dolled up for Windows/Frontpage users will use "put"or "get," including commandline utilities such as "ftp," "sftp," and "ncftp."

linuxChique

Err! Thanks for that Help? Something being standard makes it seem suddenly un-stupid, not! Not that that was my question. From days gone by I seem to remember the terms Upload and Download being terms used with FTP interfaces. I have had a long holiday mind you and the mind is a bit rusty.

Any answers to my original Question?

BaNa

first of all .. frontpage and dreamweaver arent good friends, stick to one of them I would say, and If ya let me choose I would def go for dreamweaver.

I cant give you an answer to your question, all I know is that I have lots of problems using them together (framespage, 1 for navigation made in dreamweaver and the rest in frontpage, dont ask me why, strategy of my boss, and frontpage overwrites dreamweaver all the time if I dare opening my framespage)

So if ya have the choice go for either one of them, good luck with it

One question relating to Dreamweaver vs. Frontpage. Which do you think is better and why? I wanna know this 'cause I use Frontpage all the time and I'm willing to learn Dreamweaver as long as there's an advantage.

Thanks Goddess

Yep! I have come to that conclusion also. The two Apps just don't want to live together in any sort of harmony. (I wonder why) Couldn't be that Gates' team are determined to see one platform one editor by chance?

I have used Dreamweaver some years ago and Frontpage and before the Troggs started moaning "notepad" Frontpage has always been a sweeter package to use. Less of a learning curb. The thing with FP is that it always tries to make any plugin that are not owned or controlled by Microsoft a pain in the arse to integrate.

Question? Is hot dog still out there? That was a nice web Page designer from memory.

Anyway I have decided to stick with Dreamweaver for now. It's a bit more complex but more rewarding once yo get the hang of it. I think Dreamweaver could well become the Mac or Netscape of Web designer tools if it hasn't already.

Bana

Have your tried refreshing? I usually use FP but I also use Homesite as well. I can make changes in homesite with FP having the web open. And then I need to hit refresh to view the correct changes & before publishing, you should recalculate the links.

Long story short, because the only argument more overdone than dreamweaver/frontpage is PC/Mac. Anyway... Frontpage is the Devil. It adds all kinds of useless crap code, that is sloppy and not needed. Learn dreamweaver. It really is the best tool out there.

yea dreamweaver is the one to use...

it is hte one to use because the code it writes is much cleaner (front page adds sooo much crap to it that you wont know hwats going on nad it prolly wont work in netscape or any other browser that doesnt have a microsoft label on it)

dont ever go back to frontpage...i would use notepad long before i went back to frontpage!!!

to answer your question...front page is acting funny because...well...it sucks.

good lucky with dreamweaver! and rock on!!

werd!

thanks! =)

I think the answer is use BOTH and depend on NEITHER!

You never know where the next wave of innovation may come from. Keep your options open and keep in touch with everything.

Especially don't stop polishing up your hard coding experience with HTML and the like, the devil is in the details and there are still some truly gem secrets in using good old notepad and saving as "index.html".

Dreamweaver and FrontPage are both usable software.

I'm not against these shortcut programs at all, I use them all the time but don't get dependant on them, that is the devil, not FrontPage.

I am not 100% on this for I am a Dreamweaver guy, but I beleive Frontpage has an auto PUT built in. I also beleive this works via date not by editing the document. So just by opening the file FrontPage is automatically recognizing that the file was updated on a certain date and doesn't match what currently exists in the file and then takes it upon itself to update the file back to it's original state.

I've had lots of problems when I take over site that was built in FrontPage and I edit them with Dreamweaver.

As far as Uploading a changed html page and not seeing the changes in the browser, hold control while refreshing (this clears the cache) usually will fix that. I find myself going to other computers sometimes to check and make sure.

i totally agree with not DEPNEDING on anyhting but if it were between FP and Dreamweaver...well lets see...typicall pages made in FP look like this...

http://www.microsoft.com/mind/0596/...ntpagefig09.gif

and you are more likely to find thatpages made with dreamweaver look like this...

http://macromedia.com/

i dunno...i know it has to do with the skills of the designer and not the progrma but...it will literally take you hours to remove crappy code that FP writes on a commercial site..even dreamweavers styles and templates and its ability to integrate with greater technologies or new innovations as you say are greater

macromedia has dreamweaver, fireworks, contribute, flash, etc...frontpage has nothing to complement it...

thats why dreamweaver is one of the industry's leading web development tools and FP is...not.

but you DO need a solid HMTL knowledge base no matter which you choose to make a successfull site

rock on!!

Thanks for that gem SF, I never knew that! so ctl/F5 Refreshes and clears, cool. Always something new comming along just when you think it's all over.