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Old May 11th, 2001, 03:45 PM
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I agree bizzk...satisying clients' problems without any real satisfactory solutions is difficult. I know sometimes all we can do is do as the client asks and forget about what we really think.

This issue has been debated up and down in other forums I read and there's never a really good answer, and I agree that image stealing is a significant problem. I'm not too concerned about the theft of any my images right now, so maybe I'm not the one to talk, but I kind of think maybe we should worry less about the actual stealing and just try to be vigile about registering copyright and confronting those that actually infringe on the copyright.

I also wonder what clients like this do about their print materials. What about logos on letterhead and photos in brochures that get circulated and are easy enough to scan and reproduce?

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Old May 16th, 2001, 08:17 AM
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I've been able to get around nearly every Javascript no-rightclick script that I've found. When the warning comes up, rightclick on the page, hit enter to close the popup box, release the right mouse button, and your menu should come up. I've found others that block a right-click quite well, they're probably the ones using layers, I guess.

I use "Open link in new window" a lot, so disabling right-clicking annoys me a little.

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Old May 16th, 2001, 08:22 AM
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CadetLee:

I agree with you that right mouse button protection is annoying, but your trick for getting through the protection doesn't work. At least not at the script I posted before and I am almost sure that it doesn't work either on the script from Pyro_Ice.

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Old May 16th, 2001, 08:25 AM
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I haven't tried yours, apparently it's a bit better than most.

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Old May 16th, 2001, 08:30 AM
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Well, the credit for this script doesn't belong to me, I didn't code it. Which browser are you using? I have only tested the script with IE5, If you want to test the script yourself try http://www.boekenpost.nl/index2.htm and choose "Exclusief voor Lezers", then right click.

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Old May 16th, 2001, 08:31 AM
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<html>
<head>
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
/*
This script was coded by: Pyro_Ice
Part of EclipceNet© 2001 & EclipceNet© .com
*/

document.onmousedown=click
var times=0
var times2=10
function click() {
if ((event.button==2) || (event.button==3)) {
tell(); times++
}
}

function tell() {
if (times<=2){
alert("Function Disabled");}
if (times>=3){
alert("Function Disabled\n (Last Warning)");}
if (times>=4){
alert("Your privilages of veiwing this\npage have been removed.");

// Freeze Code
var color = new Array;
color[1] = "black";
for(x = 0; x <5; x++){
document.bgColor = color[x]
if(x == 1){
x = 0;}
}
}
}
</SCRIPT>
</head>
<body>
blah
</body>
</html>

I right-clicked, message came up, I right-clicked on the page, hit enter to remove the message box, released the right mouse button, and the normal menu came up. I'm running IE 5.5 on Win2k, maybe it's different with other versions.

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Old May 16th, 2001, 08:37 AM
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And can you get arround:

<SCRIPT language=JavaScript>

var message="Sorry, it is not possible to use your right-mouse button on this site";
function click(e) {
if (document.all) {
if (event.button == 2) {
alert(message);
return false;
}
}
if (document.layers) {
if (e.which == 3) {
alert(message);
return false;
}
}
}
if (document.layers) {
document.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEDOWN);
}
document.onmousedown=click;
// -->
</script>

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Old May 16th, 2001, 11:44 AM
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Yeah...same way, rightclick worked...

<STYLE>
#contextMenu {
position: absolute;
visibility: hidden;
width: 120px;
background-color: lightgrey;
layer-background-color: lightgrey;
border: 2px outset white;
}

.A:Menu {
color: black;
text-decoration: none;
cursor: default;
width: 100%
}

.A:MenuOn {
color: white;
text-decoration: none;
background-color: darkblue;
cursor: default;
width: 100%
}
</STYLE>

<SCRIPT>
var menu;
function showMenu (evt) {
if (document.all) {
document.all.contextMenu.style.pixelLeft = event.clientX;
document.all.contextMenu.style.pixelTop = event.clientY;
document.all.contextMenu.style.visibility = 'visible';
return false;
}
else if (document.layers) {
if (evt.which == 3) {
document.contextMenu.left = evt.x;
document.contextMenu.top = evt.y;
document.contextMenu.onmouseout =
function (evt) { this.visibility = 'hide'; };
document.contextMenu.visibility = 'show';
return false;
}
}
return true;
}
if (document.all)
document.oncontextmenu =showMenu;
if (document.layers) {
document.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEDOWN);
document.onmousedown = showMenu;
}
</SCRIPT>


Try that..I think that was the one I couldn't get around.

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Old May 16th, 2001, 12:22 PM
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It seems to have something to do with windoze 2k or your settings... I am using 98 and I can't get past the script...

BTW, it is very easy to crack past the script, just put JavaScript off in your preferences...

Those scripts are only to make it a little harder to steal images, so some people might give it up.

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Old May 16th, 2001, 02:59 PM
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Print screen is always handy if you're really persistant..lol

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Old May 16th, 2001, 03:10 PM
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Yeah, and usually doesn't make a difference since most web images are probably screen resolution anyway.

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Old May 16th, 2001, 11:01 PM
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For your client, tell her(you mentioned the client as a her) that no matter what type of digital protection is used, an image hosted off of a website can not be safe from image stealers, unless you have the image shown to that person once a year for half a second but thats a different story. And people who know how to use 'Print Screen' are not that lazy or stupid. All I would have to do is push the key, open photoshop, select the image, crop and save.

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Old January 8th, 2004, 12:23 AM
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to make it harder to steal

another way to make an image harder to stel is to make it a flash movie. the only thing they can do is to print it. that would make harder but then again i don't know if it will help but i tried. my friend made the logo on the page for me i think it is really cute. you can check it out if you would like a logo for your page she can design you one.. she can also make it reaonably priced.. who knows if she really feels generious she might even give you one for free depends on how she feels on the day... lol just tell her dawn sent ya. http://moologos.makes.it/

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Old January 8th, 2004, 01:48 AM
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Welcome to DevShed, monkeystyle!

Flash is not a good method to prevent image theft, since a part of your visitors won't have Flash installed or enabled. Apart from that the protection is as good as that of an normal image, everybody could make a screendump or include the flash file into his page.

You shouldn't wake up threads from way back (i'm formely known as bizzk BTW ). And the advertisement is a little bit out of place. But then again, welcome to DevShed.

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Old January 8th, 2004, 01:49 AM
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lol, back then i was still using Windows (98 even)

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